SS workshop UI missing + inability to interact with the building plans on the desk :(

[Antarticoon]

This is my first forum post but I’ve run into a problem I can’t figure out myself.
After 20 levels in & I use a downloaded city plan for Finch Farm at level 20 I get back into the game to find I can’t see the resources or stats required by the mod.
I’ve updated HUDFramework
I’ve updated WorkshopFramework
I’ve disabled any conflicting mods that are related to the HUD or workshop mode to no avail and even reinstalling most mods involved to no success.

 

[Cessori]

This is my first forum post but I’ve run into a problem I can’t figure out myself.
After 20 levels in & I use a downloaded city plan for Finch Farm at level 20 I get back into the game to find I can’t see the resources or stats required by the mod.
I’ve updated HUDFramework
I’ve updated WorkshopFramework
I’ve disabled any conflicting mods that are related to the HUD or workshop mode to no avail and even reinstalling most mods involved to no success.

Welcome to the forums, @Antarticoon !
Would you please:
1. Post your plugins load order. (This is helpful to sort out issues.)
2. Include the name of the City Plan/Link (Note: City Plans that were for SS1 are not compatible with SS2.)
Or you can check up on your load order and known issues on your own. Load order is important for SS2 to function correctly.
Installation and Load Order, Known Issues

 

[Antarticoon]

Ok i got my load order and I admit I've only been using LOOT to organize it but Im curious why an issue appeared after implementing the (Finch Salvage Recovery - Sim Settlements 2 City Plan Contest Winner February 2022) as I had downloaded that on my test playthrough before this current one. I have seen online a bug where on exit and re-entry of power armor causes a HUD bug because I remember leaving my power armor for the first time in a while and then it caused the error. (I have also used Settlement Menu Repair multiple times after i tried my own fixes to no avail )

 

[Antarticoon]

Spoiler: Fallout load Order?

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 XDI.esm
9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm
10 a HUDFramework.esm
11 b WorkshopFramework.esm
254 FE 0 LegendaryDropBugfix.esl
254 FE 1 PPF.esm
254 FE 2 FOVSlider.esl
12 c Loads.esm
254 FE 3 AORobcoReconScope.esl
13 d SS2.esm
14 e Robot Home Defence.esm
254 FE 4 Automatron Randomized Bots Framework.esm
254 FE 5 CroumanVil_V2.esl
254 FE 6 ParksVilV2.esl
15 f SS2_XPAC_Chapter2.esm
254 FE 7 MM-Castle-HQ-By-Tarkkh-V2.6.esl
254 FE 8 GavMan_Vault88_CityPlan.esl
254 FE 9 TheCircleSS2.esl
254 FE a GavMan_Finch_Feb22_CityPlan.esl
254 FE b Sunshine-Medical Center1.1.esl
254 FE c JamaicaplainMinutemenBase.esl
254 FE d GavMan_AbernathyJan22_CityPlan.esl
254 FE e Oberland Station Scavenger Paradise.esl
16 10 NewCalibers.esp
254 FE f SimpleSanctuary.esl
254 FE 10 GavMan_Egret_CityPlan.esl
254 FE 11 Wetness Shader Fix.esp
254 FE 12 Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp
17 11 No Aggro Impact Landing.esp
254 FE 13 Fortune Finder 4 Fix.esp
18 12 RAW INPUT.esp
19 13 LOST Audio Tweaks.esp
254 FE 14 M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp
20 14 RustDevilRedux.esp
21 15 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp
254 FE 15 TrueInvisibility.esp
22 16 InstitWeapPosit.esp
23 17 BetterModDescriptions.esp
24 18 AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp
25 19 IcebreakerCDO-Piper.esp
26 1a Companion Infinite Ammo.esp
27 1b Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp
28 1c Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
29 1d Armorsmith Extended.esp
30 1e Scopes.esp
31 1f KSHairdos.esp
32 20 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
33 21 LongerPowerLines3x.esp
34 22 K9TacticalHarness.esp
35 23 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
36 24 FusionCoreNoAP.esp
37 25 512StandaloneHairColors.esp
38 26 LooksMenu.esp
39 27 LooksMirror.esp
40 28 CBBE.esp
41 29 LMBTOverlays.esp
42 2a LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
43 2b BDO Hair.esp
44 2c FF7R.esp
45 2d ParagonHairs.esp
46 2e AA Better Companions - No Conflicts.esp
47 2f NoAffinityCooldown.esp
48 30 NoNegativeAffinityNoFucks.esp
49 31 MiscHairstyle.esp
50 32 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
51 33 FF Cait Clean.esp
52 34 Piping Hot Piper 2.0.esp
53 35 RHDaddon.esp
54 36 Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp
55 37 Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp
56 38 Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp
57 39 AutomatronSecuritron.esp
58 3a Fort Tenpines.esp
59 3b 3dscopes.esp
60 3c UltraInteriorLighting.esp
61 3d CleanMySettlement.esp
62 3e Weaponsmith Extended 2.esp
63 3f WorkshopRearranged.esp
64 40 BrighterSettlementLights_LessHarsh.esp
65 41 BetterGenerators.esp
66 42 AutomatronUnlocked.esp
67 43 NAC.esp
68 44 ENBLightsHDRPatch.esp
254 FE 16 Ownership Fixes.esp
69 45 MojaveImports.esp
254 FE 17 BetterCoastalWaves.esp
70 46 RaiderOverhaul.esp
71 47 BetterCompanions.esp
72 48 Crimsomrider's Taffington Boathouse.esp
73 49 SS2Extended.esp
74 4a CroupSettlerRescue.esp
75 4b UniqueUniques.esp
76 4c Skb_RiflesRebirth.esp
77 4d D.E.C.A.Y.esp
78 4e Rangergearnew.esp
79 4f ClassicSniper.esp
80 50 Snappy_HouseK.esp
81 51 SS2WastelandVenturers.esp
82 52 [SS2 Addon] SimSettlements SuperStructures.esp
83 53 Central Settlement Armory.esp
254 FE 18 TerrainUndersides.esp
84 54 FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
85 55 DX_Black_Widow.esp
86 56 SalvageBeacons.esp
87 57 AEWS.esp
88 58 AEWS_NukaWorldPatch.esp
89 59 Extended weapon mods.esp
254 FE 19 Automatron Randomized Bots Overrider.esp
254 FE 1a Automatron Randomized Bots Overrider Unleveled.esp
90 5a Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp
91 5b 3dscopes-robcorecon.esp
92 5c NAC-FH.esp
93 5d NAC-NW.esp
94 5e JunkTownTwo.esp
95 5f SS2-PraRandomAddon.esp
254 FE 1b SS2-PraRandomAddon-FIS.esp
254 FE 1c SS2Addon_MS_BareEssentials.esp
96 60 ELFX_ENBLight_Patch.esp
97 61 DarkerNights.esp
98 62 DarkerNightsDetection.esp
99 63 HairVariations_YoungAtHeart.esp
100 64 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
101 65 ASCOCait05.esp
102 66 ASCOCurie01.esp
103 67 ASCODanse01.esp
104 68 ASCOPreston03.esp
105 69 Ghouls Revamped.esp
106 6a SettlementMenuManager.esp
107 6b OSM_AlternateStart_Protocol-InfiniteAnswer.esp
254 FE 1d PRP.esp
PRP-Compat-Clarity-43.esp
108 6c EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
109 6d Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
110 6e InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp
254 FE 1e PRP-Compat-IntEnh.esp
111 6f Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
254 FE 1f ScrapEverythingInteriorEnhencedPatch.esp

 

[Antarticoon]

Also I see you have some city plans linked with your message, I want to be able to use some of yours Especially Graygarden and your Greentop plans looking cleaaaaaan
Edit: New question after looking at the recommended load order link; Should I not be using Loot to manage my load orders anymore? Loot's all I've ever known my guy I'd feel bad to do it to her.
Also is using xEdit to clean up files really that important? I learned how to do that when i first started experimenting with mods years ago but soon forgot

 

[Cessori]

I don't really see anything wrong with your load order. Maybe, some others (more knowledgabe than me) could have a look too?
Some of your mods I don't recognize.

I see that you are using Extended Dialogue (XDI). You'll need a patch for that for SS2, link to that on the Known Issues page. Though that won't help your issue.
You don't need Salvage Beacons, SS2 has beacons included. DECAY is on the Known Issues list.
I wouldn't be using Scrap Everything for various reasons, mostly that it scraps things that shouldn't be scrapped.

Here's a good tutorial on Load Orders by Gamerpoets:
Modding 101 || Load Order || A to ESL || Elder Scrolls & Fallout
Some good tips on this page too (at the bottom):
Fixing Your Game

I'm not a Loot user, nor am I an expert xEdit cleaner. I actually haven't ever cleaned -- Gamerpoets has some excellent tutorials on xEdit as well, but unfortunately with all the testing I do now, I don't have a fully modded game anymore.
I use Mod Organizer 2 and generally do load orders manually, according to the wiki page I linked above.

 

[Antarticoon]

I don't really see anything wrong with your load order. Maybe, some others (more knowledgabe than me) could have a look too?
Some of your mods I don't recognize.

I see that you are using Extended Dialogue (XDI). You'll need a patch for that for SS2, link to that on the Known Issues page. Though that won't help your issue.
You don't need Salvage Beacons, SS2 has beacons included. DECAY is on the Known Issues list.
I wouldn't be using Scrap Everything for various reasons, mostly that it scraps things that shouldn't be scrapped.

Here's a good tutorial on Load Orders by Gamerpoets:
Modding 101 || Load Order || A to ESL || Elder Scrolls & Fallout
Some good tips on this page too (at the bottom):
Fixing Your Game

I'm not a Loot user, nor am I an expert xEdit cleaner. I actually haven't ever cleaned -- Gamerpoets has some excellent tutorials on xEdit as well, but unfortunately with all the testing I do now, I don't have a fully modded game anymore.
I use Mod Organizer 2 and generally do load orders manually, according to the wiki page I linked above.

Thanks for the attempt, I found someone else on another site who had a similar issue minus the not being able to interact with the Manage City button that was three pages long but ended in tears.
Anyone have any ideas? I’d rather not make a new save bc I’ve made so much progress with other settlements ;-;

 

[Antarticoon]

OK ODD BUT I removed the Salvage Beacons mod as you said and despite it being totally unrelated, I am able to interact with the Manage City button now but still unable to see the HUD but this is progess people

Edit: ok so interacting with Manage City doesn’t work in some settlements (Slog) but in others if I spam E on where the map will load in right after placing the desk enables me to get to the prized menu

 

[TooN0ble]

Workshop Framework actually got updated a few times in the span of a few days. Make sure you are using the latest.

 

[yaugie]

The SS2 HUD (or anything else that uses HUDFramework, for that matter) may not display correctly if you are using any other mods that alter the 'crosshair' (I don't see any of those there, but I don't recognise a lot of that load order) or have switched that off altogether in the base game's options menus. Check that's still turned on?

 

[Antarticoon]

The SS2 HUD (or anything else that uses HUDFramework, for that matter) may not display correctly if you are using any other mods that alter the 'crosshair' (I don't see any of those there, but I don't recognise a lot of that load order) or have switched that off altogether in the base game's options menus. Check that's still turned on?

Yup the crosshair is on and not edited

 

[Antarticoon]

Workshop Framework actually got updated a few times in the span of a few days. Make sure you are using the latest.

Yeah I updated it yesterday, if I disable scrap requirements and storage then the lack of HUD makes it playable yet lacking.