Constructed Items at weird angels?

[woodfuzzy]

My load order for my earlier post:

Spoiler

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCWorkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCWorkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCWorkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 cczsef04001-bhouse.esm
8 8 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm
10 a HUDFramework.esm
11 b DEF_WIDGETS_CORE.esm
12 c Homemaker.esm
13 d SettlementKeywords.esm
14 e Snap'n Build.esm
15 f TrueStormsFO4.esm
16 10 Worsin's Garage.esm
254 FE 0 NMC Bundle HIGH.esl
17 11 SimSettlements.esm
254 FE 1 FortIndependence2x0.esl
254 FE 2 SimSettlements_LeaderPack_Gannon_Patches.esl
254 FE 3 SimSettlements_IDEKsLogisticsStation.esl
254 FE 4 Taffington Motel - Hot Tub.esl
254 FE 5 Nordhagen Ferris ESL.esl
254 FE 6 JunkTown.esl
254 FE 7 VaultTecEngineering.esl
18 12 OVT.esp
19 13 BetterModDescriptions.esp
20 14 VISTagsPra.esp
21 15 Armorsmith Extended.esp
22 16 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp
23 17 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp
24 18 BetterModDescriptionsAE.esp
25 19 th1nkEyebot.esp
26 1a th1nkEyeBot-FarHarbor.esp
27 1b th1nkEyeBot-NukaWorld.esp
28 1c th1nkEyeBot-DLC03DLC04Addon.esp
29 1d th1nkEyeBot-CheatRecipesAiO.esp
30 1e AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp
31 1f AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.esp
32 20 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR Power Armor.esp
33 21 BetterJunkFences.esp
34 22 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
35 23 More detailed perk description dlc version.esp
36 24 BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
37 25 BrighterSettlementLights.esp
38 26 Better Settlement Defence.esp
39 27 CBBE.esp
40 28 KSHairdos.esp
41 29 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
42 2a CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
43 2b Custom Concrete with Glass.esp
44 2c DD_All_the_COncrete.esp
45 2d DEF_WIDGETS_SURVIVAL1.esp
46 2e EasyHacking.esp
47 2f dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
48 30 FAR.esp
49 31 Fixed Alpha Map.esp
50 32 FlaconOil HD ReTexture_Performance Pack_Part_1.esp
51 33 FlaconOil HD ReTexture_Performance Pack_Part_2.esp
52 34 Generator Fusebox - More realistic version.esp
53 35 No more monochrome - Color setting for the Pipboy!.esp
54 36 Grasslands - Healthy - Performance.esp
55 37 HoloTime_2.esp
56 38 Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler.esp
57 39 Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
58 3a Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp
59 3b Live Action Handy - With GlowMap.esp
60 3c Live Dismemberment - BrutalNoHeadshots.esp
61 3d LongerPowerLines3x.esp
62 3e Lots More Facial Hair.esp
63 3f Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
64 40 GatlingRifle.esp
65 41 McMillanCS5.esp
66 42 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
67 43 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
68 44 No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp
69 45 OCDecorator.esp
70 46 OCDecoratorDLC.esp
71 47 OCDispenser.esp
72 48 PIP-Pad.esp
73 49 THBrows.esp
74 4a PIP-Pad_THBrows.esp
75 4b Interview.esp
76 4c AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
77 4d LovingCait.esp
78 4e LovingPiper.esp
79 4f PowerLinePhysics.esp
80 50 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
81 51 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
82 52 RAO - True Storms patch.esp
83 53 RichMerchants.esp
84 54 RU556.esp
85 55 RU556AWKCR.esp
86 56 3dscopes.esp
87 57 3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp
88 58 3dscopes-framework.esp
89 59 SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
90 5a Swinging Meat Bags.esp
91 5b Synth Overhaul.esp
92 5c Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp
93 5d 3DNPC_FO4.esp
94 5e SOTS.esp
95 5f brotherhood of steel overhaul.esp
96 60 CrimeTown.esp
97 61 BobbleMagazine.esp
98 62 powerarmort49.esp
99 63 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
100 64 FaceMaxson.esp
101 65 TrainBar.esp
102 66 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
103 67 BetterSettlers.esp
104 68 BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
105 69 BetterSettlersHeavyArmorOnly.esp
106 6a ImmersiveDrumlinDiner.esp
107 6b AA FusionCityRising.esp
108 6c OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
109 6d Lowered Drawbridges.esp
110 6e SpectacleIsleBridges.esp
111 6f Far Harbor Bridge.esp
112 70 SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
113 71 Personal_Storm_Shelter.esp
114 72 My_Minutemen.esp
115 73 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_AwsomeTown.esp
116 74 MilitarizedMinutemen.esp
117 75 AtomCatGarage.esp
118 76 AA 50 Ways To Die.esp
119 77 RaiderOverhaul.esp
120 78 Mercenary.esp
121 79 Minuteman Watchtowers.esp
122 7a MREs.esp
123 7b SettlementAttacksBeyond.esp
124 7c B84sThemedResidentials.esp
125 7d DOOMMerged.esp
126 7e SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp
127 7f G36Complex.esp
128 80 ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
129 81 DWUK_LexingtonInteriors.esp
130 82 TrailerParkDreams.esp
131 83 VTO Redux.esp
132 84 DPAssaultCarbine.esp
133 85 AQUILA.esp
134 86 ACR-W17.esp
135 87 Publick Occurrences Expanded.esp
136 88 SalvageBeacons.esp
137 89 Synth Overhaul - VIS Patch.esp
138 8a Eli Armor Compendium AE VIS Patch.esp
139 8b Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
140 8c DPAssaultCarbineNukaWorld.esp
141 8d BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
142 8e WIPAG - Wearable Backpacks and Pouches Compatibility Patch.esp
143 8f ValdacilsItemSorting - DOOMBASED Weapons Merged TAGS.esp
144 90 Radrose Usability Enhancements.esp
145 91 chem redux.esp
146 92 Corporate Wasteland - Main.esp
147 93 Corporate Wasteland + Nuka World.esp
148 94 Corporate Wasteland + Far Harbor.esp
149 95 P90.esp
150 96 P90NPC.esp
151 97 G36 add-ons.esp
152 98 m82a.esp
153 99 ChemsLabCrates.esp
154 9a R91AssaultRifle.esp
155 9b mre_val.esp
156 9c NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp
157 9d OWR_OWT.esp
158 9e Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp
159 9f SatelliteWorldMap.esp
160 a0 SettlementAttacksBeyondFH.esp
161 a1 SARR.esp
162 a2 Radrose Usability - Workbench Perk Requirements + Armorsmith.esp
163 a3 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - 3DNPC_FO4.esp
164 a4 3DNPC_FO4 AE VIS.esp
165 a5 FaceMaxson-AdVictorium_Patch.esp
166 a6 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
167 a7 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
168 a8 WastelandCodex.esp
169 a9 Thematic and Practical.esp
170 aa Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp
171 ab Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
172 ac ValdacilsItemSorting - Wearable Backpacks and Pouches TAGS.esp
173 ad AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp
254 FE 8 CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
174 ae WIPAG - Decal Station.esp
175 af WIPAG - Model-X.esp
176 b0 WIPAG - Paint Garage - Style 3 (Easy).esp
177 b1 BetterModDescriptionsROWIP.esp
178 b2 SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
179 b3 BetterOpenSeason.esp
180 b4 Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp
181 b5 SettlementAttacksBeyondNW.esp
182 b6 ValdacilsItemSorting - Super Mutant Redux.esp
183 b7 ValdacilsItemSorting - Synth Overhaul TAGS.esp
184 b8 TurretControlPanel.esp
185 b9 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
186 ba WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp
187 bb home_improvement_all.esp
188 bc SimHomestead.esp
189 bd WVSimSAddon.esp
190 be MJC_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
191 bf SSEX.esp
192 c0 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp
193 c1 PCDugSIMAddon.esp
194 c2 FP_SimSettlements-Leaderpack.esp
195 c3 SK_Leaders1.esp
196 c4 Sim_Settlements_Mayors.esp
197 c5 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp
198 c6 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
199 c7 NoMoreRandomTurretMks.esp
200 c8 DiamondCityPlayerFactory.esp
201 c9 Remove Interior Fog - All Dlc.esp
202 ca RUEMerged.esp
203 cb Smashed Patch.esp
204 cc Chefs Meatbag Patch.esp
205 cd Chefs Consumable Patch.esp
206 ce Chefs Armor Patch.esp
207 cf Chefs Misc Item Patch.esp
208 d0 Chefs Weapon Patch.esp
209 d1 Chefs Misc Patch.esp
210 d2 Chefs NPC Patch.esp

It's not a mod conflict in this case. So no worries.
And merge some of those mods! You can save like 20 slots. LOL!

 

[Chef]

I could, but I have all I need for this game. I was above the limit before I merged VIS and RUE patches, and that saved me like 20 plugins. On the next rebuild I'm sure I'll wind up merging more.

 

[kinggath]

@woodfuzzy was finally able to figure out how to replicate this, so I can start working on a solution!

 

[chillshock]

That's awesome. Also: switching to manual upgrade and staying until the upgrade is done seems to have helped in regards to "not messing up a settlement that was ok". Upgrading by itself does not clean up messed up settlements, though. Refresh settlement does, though. Saved like 4-5 ones that looks like a work by Salvator Dalí.

 

[rhn]

I don't know if this is related, but noticed something during the Weapons research quest(slight spoilers):

Spoiler

Whenever you drop the Energy Signature Analyzer, it is seemingly tilted at the same angle as the odd settlement structures.

 

[Sakata]

@woodfuzzy was finally able to figure out how to replicate this, so I can start working on a solution!

That is awesome to hear. I'll check in for an update. If you would like more data points, or need someone to break things, lemme know.

 

[woodfuzzy]

That is awesome to hear. I'll check in for an update. If you would like more data points, or need someone to break things, lemme know.

Addicted Beta Testers

Keep in mind..you gotta be outa your mind to click that link!

 

[sarahlost]

Just to chime in, i see this problem in Sanctuary, Red Rocket and the DriveIn. I do have upgrades on auto though, so i see the issue when the first upgrade hits. i will try refreshing the cities tonight and see if that helps.

 

[sarahlost]

That is a picture of my Red Rocket RotC Level 1 result. I did do a refresh of the plots and it did not help at all. I can't even get to the desk over there, the lower wall is missing where that bunk is hanging in space. And that fence is just shooting out of the wall into nothing. This is just one messed up area, there are examples throughout the build.

If it helps this seemed to start with the 3.30 combo pack. I had a good build on an earlier play through before I installed that.

Should I tear it down, and try the manual upgrade route?

thanks!

 

[rhn]

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That is a picture of my Red Rocket RotC Level 1 result. I did do a refresh of the plots and it did not help at all. I can't even get to the desk over there, the lower wall is missing where that bunk is hanging in space. And that fence is just shooting out of the wall into nothing. This is just one messed up area, there are examples throughout the build.

If it helps this seemed to start with the 3.30 combo pack. I had a good build on an earlier play through before I installed that.

Should I tear it down, and try the manual upgrade route?

thanks!

Refreshing plots has no effect on the random items spawned by the city plan. You need to use the "Refresh city" in the city plan part of the table. Where you choose the leader/plan etc.

 

[sarahlost]

Oh... /sigh
thank you... i will try that then... Just blew up two settlements lol.

Quick Update: Refresh City (you have to scroll down to see that option for pete's sake, almost wrote a nasty note, until i saw the scroll arrows) WORKED. It fixed my beloved Red Rocket! I really like the little player home on the top of it.

 

[rhn]

Oh... /sigh
thank you... i will try that then... Just blew up two settlements lol.

I didn't see it there either at first. Trawled through the holotape for ages looking for it

 

[Ilja]

Problem should be fixed after the most recent patch to Sim Settlements.

I will mark the post solved, but will not archive it yet. Tell us, if something is still going on.

 

[apethae]

Thanks, this has been happening with any settlement I set up with an NPC mayor. Does the patch clear out the junk items that got spawned inside other interior cells as well? I currently can't get into the reactor room of Vault 81 because the entrance is blocked by misplaced items from Nordhagen Beach.

Spoiler: Load Order

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
DLCUltraHighResolution.esm=1
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
SettlementKeywords.esm=1
HUDFramework.esm=1
SimSettlements.esm=1
ZW's F4 Overhaul Master.esm=1
Arbitration - Resources.esm=1
SimSettlements_IDEKsLogisticsStation.esl=1
TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp=1
CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp=1
Scrapper Corpse Highlighting - DLCRobots Fixes.esp=1
Brawl Bug Fix.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp=1
DarkerNights.esp=1
DarkerNightsDetection.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp=1
Better Vendor Stalls.esp=1
SettlementMenuManager.esp=1
AA LMSE_FarHarbor.esp=1
AA Better Companions - No Conflicts - Accuracy Beta.esp=1
spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp=1
PushAwayCompanions.esp=1
Crafting Workbench.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
LooksMirror.esp=1
EasyHacking.esp=1
Loot Detector.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-ModsWeightless.esp=1
ZW's F4 Overhaul - Power Armor.esp=1
No Aggro Impact Landing.esp=1
dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp=1
VatsOverThere_IncreasedVATSRange_AimIncrease.esp=1
KSHairdos.esp=1
LMBTOverlays.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1
SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp=1
Perks Unleashed.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCAutomatron.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCNukaWorld.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCFarHarbor.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-AidWeightless.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-AmmoWeightless.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-JunkWeightless+DEF_INV.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-MiscWeightless.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-NotJunk.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-Perks.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCContraptions.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCVaultTec.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorBySlot.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-CosmeticsByType.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Far Harbor DLC.esp=1
IWCait.esp=1
IWCurie.esp=1
IWDanse.esp=1
IWMagnolia.esp=1
IWMamaMurphy.esp=1
IWPiper.esp=1
ProtectedNamedSettlers.esp=1
IWTinaDeLuca.esp=1
RadUnclechubbyTS.esp=1
Power Conduits and Pylons Overhaul - SKE.esp=1
IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp=1
SSAOP_SamutzVault88.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
FALLOUT4WT.esp=1
PA_PoisonPrevention.esp=1
Danse GTFO Power Armor.esp=1
MGSOutfit.esp=1
Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp=1
WeightlessNukaWorldSpacesuits.esp=1
Piercings.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor.esp=1
MGSV_SniperWolf.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AzarHair.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_Valdacil.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_VaultSuitDLC_AE.esp=1
cutoffs-calyps.esp=0
Harness-calyps.esp=0
Colossus.esp=1
Spartan-Calyps.esp=1
Armorsmith Calyps.esp=1
PA-Quick Animations.esp=1
zgczilents.esp=1
Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp=1
PersonalContainer.esp=1
CMPA +300.esp=1
NCRDesertRavenArmor.esp=1
BikerGal.esp=1
ZW's F4 Overhaul - Power Armor - Automatron Patch.esp=1
ZW's F4 Overhaul - Power Armor - Contraptions Patch.esp=1
ZWPAO - War Tags Patch.esp=1
Dogmeat's Backpack.esp=0
ProvisionerBackPack.esp=0
Survivalist GoBags-Chem Station.esp=0
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp=0
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp=0
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp=0
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.esp=0
AnV Camo Backpacks.esp=0
EferasShoulderBag.esp=0
HubrisShoulderBags.esp=0
Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons - Auto Raise from Cover.esp=1
OutfitSwitcher.esp=1
SniperDamage v1.5x.esp=1
MinigunDamage.esp=1
AnyModAnyWeapon2.esp=1
CutWeaponModsRestored-GOTY.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp=1
Extended weapon mods.esp=1
CWMR-GOTY-Patch-AWKCR.esp=1
CWMR-GOTY-Patch-Extended weapon mods.esp=1
CWMR-GOTY-Patch-ValdacilsItemSorting-AllDLC.esp=1
oilrig.esp=1
3DNPC_FO4.esp=1
nvvault1080.esp=1
The Collector's Guides AIO.esp=1
America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp=1
OutcastsAndRemnants.esp=1
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1
Minutemenoverhaul.esp=1
AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-ExplosivesSortBottomWeightless.esp=1
IWDeacon.esp=1
IWDesdemona.esp=1
IWLongfellow.esp=1
IWMacCready.esp=1
IWMaxson.esp=1
IWPreston.esp=1
IWSturges.esp=1
CartographersMapMarkers FarHarbor.esp=1
NukaRadBans.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AE.esp=1
Jacket.esp=1
TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden AE patch.esp=1
ArtilleryDblExp.esp=1
BetterOpenSeason.esp=1
CartographersMapMarkers NukaWorld.esp=1
AA FusionCityRising.esp=1
SpectacleIsleBridges.esp=1
AA 50 Ways To Die.esp=1
Mercenary.esp=1
RansackedRelay.esp=1
powerarmort49.esp=1
DOOMMerged.esp=1
IWGlory.esp=1
UitFJ.esp=1
JunkTown.esp=1
SimHomestead.esp=1
SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp=1
WVSimSAddon.esp=1
WattzLaserGun.esp=1
CartographersMapMarkers Commonwealth.esp=1
ClassicSniper.esp=1
Armorsmith Pack It Up.esp=1
FieldScribeBackpack.esp=1
AtomicRadio.esp=1
MJC_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp=1
Altairp's Animal Farm.esp=1
SS MegaPackOneYear-Previews.esp=1
SimSettlements Previews Newest.esp=1
EpilogueRestored.esp=1
ArtilleryFlare.esp=1
zgcquietrm.esp=1
Headcrab_Bunny.esp=1
HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp=1
ALSL Vault Suit Unzipped - vault 111 suits only.esp=1
GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp=1
SalvageBeacons.esp=1
LongerPowerLines3x.esp=1
LoveToCraftLegendary_SwapOnly.esp=1
LoveToCraftLegendary_SwapOnly_NukaWorld.esp=1
LoveToCraftLegendary_SwapOnly_Automatron.esp=1
LoveToCraftLegendary_SwapOnly_FarHarbor.esp=1
Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp=1
DD_bobblehead_stands.esp=1
Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp=1
Clean Water - Clear.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Dispatcher_Radio_Optional.esp=1
ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp=1
SimSettlements_Addon_VaultLand.esp=1
Sim_Settlements_Mayors.esp=1
DynamicInteriorFogRemoval.esp=1
DIFR - VIS Patch.esp=1

Edit: After patching Sim Settlements Three-in-One to 3.3.1, every time I try to approach a settlement using an NPC mayor/city plan, I CTD. I tried following this flowchart but I cannot approach from N, S, E or W without crashing when I get within a certain distance of the settlement. Tried Remote Self Destruct from the Pipboy holotape but it doesn't seem to find the nearby settlement (just says 'searching for nearby charges' and then nothing), or I can't get close enough to trigger it without CTDing. Tried the Town Gavel and 'scrap everything', which makes it so the lights in the distance die out as the settlement objects are scrapped (nevermind that, it was a spotlight that swung its arc in the opposite direction and I mistook this for it being scrapped) but I still CTD when I try to approach, or use 'coc <name of cell>' from the console. Any advice? Is this recoverable or should I write those settlements off for this playthrough? Neither is in an area with overlapping nearby settlements (Somerville Place and Nordhagen Beach).

 

[woodfuzzy]

Thanks, this has been happening with any settlement I set up with an NPC mayor. Does the patch clear out the junk items that got spawned inside other interior cells as well? I currently can't get into the reactor room of Vault 81 because the entrance is blocked by misplaced items from Nordhagen Beach.

Edit: After patching Sim Settlements Three-in-One to 3.3.1, every time I try to approach a settlement using an NPC mayor/city plan, I CTD. I tried following this flowchart but I cannot approach from N, S, E or W without crashing when I get within a certain distance of the settlement. Tried Remote Self Destruct from the Pipboy holotape but it doesn't seem to find the nearby settlement (just says 'searching for nearby charges' and then nothing), or I can't get close enough to trigger it without CTDing. Tried the Town Gavel and 'scrap everything', which makes it so the lights in the distance die out as the settlement objects are scrapped (nevermind that, it was a spotlight that swung its arc in the opposite direction and I mistook this for it being scrapped) but I still CTD when I try to approach, or use 'coc <name of cell>' from the console. Any advice? Is this recoverable or should I write those settlements off for this playthrough? Neither is in an area with overlapping nearby settlements (Somerville Place and Nordhagen Beach).

Try this...
Got to Home plate.. alone.
Open the console & run:
cqf kgsim_cpmanager ForceClearSettlement 1e81ea
Which is for Somerville Place.
Close the console, open the Pip-Boy Radio tab and let the game set for 20 minutes.
Close the Pip-Boy, Save.. Exit the game and then fire it back up and load the save.
That should destroy the City Plan and you can then rebuild it. IF the cell hasn't been corrupted.

This is for Nordhagen (Do NOT run this until you have done the above! Then just repeat the steps above)
cqf kgsim_cpmanager ForceClearSettlement 9b1be

 

[Geoff]

Using all the latest patches and only cheat menu as the only non ss plugin (PC).
Had to return to level 3 Finch Farm to kill some gunners. Noticed the slanted sign, some walls and stairway to heaven. Also got new leader message???? So did a refresh as in santuary, abernathy etc. But this time after city refresh there where no foundations or walls stairs etc at all. Waited more than 1 1/2 hrs. saved and came back. Decided to start city from level 0 again, and foundations came back. Is anyone else still getting this. Have had the usual bits of plot in various locations as well. Will i have to go through all my citys and refresh? Just worried i might have to start from level 0 again!.
But i think i will change Santuary for a new city design.(sorry Kinggath, like the plan, but just crashes too many times)...

 

[apethae]

Try this...
Got to Home plate.. alone.
Open the console & run:
cqf kgsim_cpmanager ForceClearSettlement 1e81ea
Which is for Somerville Place.
Close the console, open the Pip-Boy Radio tab and let the game set for 20 minutes.
Close the Pip-Boy, Save.. Exit the game and then fire it back up and load the save.
That should destroy the City Plan and you can then rebuild it. IF the cell hasn't been corrupted.

This is for Nordhagen (Do NOT run this until you have done the above! Then just repeat the steps above)
cqf kgsim_cpmanager ForceClearSettlement 9b1be

Thanks for the tip. Apologies if I missed script documentation somewhere, new to this forum. Unfortunately, it didn't work in my case - script ran and dumped a bunch of objects into my inventory, but it would still CTD if I approached on foot, fast-travelled, or COC'd to either settlement. Tried a tool called FO4 Cell Ripper that could supposedly reset cells back to their vanilla state, but couldn't get it to run (is an abandoned mod now, apparently). Reverted to a manual save from 8 play-hours before (ugh) and was able to get in... Somerville in particular was this Escher-esque, giant, crazy tower of windmills built on top of each other at insane angles way up into the sky. I'd heard building over a certain height can sometimes corrupt saves, so maybe that's what happened.Town gavel scrapped both, waited, and made a new manual save, hopefully I can continue on from there. Should I run that kgsim_cpmanager ForceClearSettlement script from Home Plate after the town gavel scrap, or is that pointless? The script warned me to do the town gavel scrap afterwards if I could get back into the cell, but not sure if it's necessary going the other way around.
Definitely going to avoid city plans/NPC mayors going forward, every one I've tried has been heartache for me.

Edit: N/m, kept getting the new leader message every time I would arrive at newly-desolated Nordhagen (re-assigning the leader I had assigned previously), so I'm gonna go to an earlier save and blast them both out with that script and then the gavel, see if that fixes it. Appreciate the help, crossing my fingers.