Are there any default heavy agricultural plots?

[RobotsSmell]

Cheers @VersusXV My 3x3 ranch is under construction.

 

[NDCowdy]

I wonder how it works for liberators. Or anyone who uses a faction pack instead of the Jammer quest line. Does that means these plots are never an option then?

I'd be quite worried about any liberators who used those conquer agricultural plots.

 

[Jacozilla]

If any 3x3 build plans are added by addon packs it will be shown even if the conqueror questline hasn't been advanced or even if conqueror is not installed(if on a v4.0.0 or greater version of Sim Settlements).

right, and I've got 2 currently (from Tinuvia). The question though is:

1- if you don't do Jammer but do another liberator/faction pack instead, do you miss out on the default 3x3 heavy farms? (since they're unlocked by Jammer?)

 

[bullyrook]

1- if you don't do Jammer but do another liberator/faction pack instead, do you miss out on the default 3x3 heavy farms? (since they're unlocked by Jammer?)

How many outposts/vassals do you have? These unlock in the Raider questline very early. The unlock isn't anything fancy or special. I think it's just the first vassal.

 

[Jacozilla]

How many outposts/vassals do you have? These unlock in the Raider questline very early. The unlock isn't anything fancy or special. I think it's just the first vassal.

Hmm, well I abandoned my last playthrough where I got furthest into the Jammer line. I had done all the bandit killing and pre-outpost requirements, taken my first outpost but not yet a vassal.

My general problem was that, due to I believe (but not sure 100%) pre-building a bunch of settlements, the rest of my normal SS settlement play was impacted. Lots of weirdness, oddities, SS vanilla scripts seeming to not fully work or stay sync.

Biggest one being whether needs HUD enabled normally or just in workshop mode, the needs display was never right. All sorts of false info. So I restarted playthrough with Conqueror uninstalled, and I plan to manually build all the settlements I plan to take, install Conqueror and start that way.

Since I've never taken a vassal, guess I never unlocked the buildings. I can't say it's big or huge, but in a brand new start, clearing out the bandits and getting up to 1st outpost isn't insignificant - at least for my playstyle where I do real survival mode, limited weight carry, and basically no gold/exp cheese.

I'd say for me it's a solid 25-30 hours of play just to get to first Outpost take over. So if there was ever a future option to enable the default buildings without the questline, I'd really like that for sure.

 

[bullyrook]

I'd say for me it's a solid 25-30 hours of play just to get to first Outpost take over. So if there was ever a future option to enable the default buildings without the questline, I'd really like that for sure.

great minds. my game play clock says three days plus and I've only just built my first Ag plots. I play glacially slow.

I asked about outposts/vassals because I wonder if they unlock just based on whether you've taken your first vassal???/second outpost???, and not any Jammer quest proper.

I'd be quite worried about any liberators who used those conquer agricultural plots.

They are pretty trashy at best and blood soaked at worst. Tricked out for dirt farmers under the gun.

So I restarted playthrough with Conqueror uninstalled, and I plan to manually build all the settlements I plan to take, install Conqueror and start that way.

Solid.

 

[VersusXV]

1- if you don't do Jammer but do another liberator/faction pack instead, do you miss out on the default 3x3 heavy farms? (since they're unlocked by Jammer?)

You do AFAIK, since their build plan conditions are tied to the Conqueror questline.

I asked about outposts/vassals because I wonder if they unlock just based on whether you've taken your first vassal???/second outpost???, and not any Jammer quest proper.

I believe it is tied to "In It For The Money", which triggers the different dialogue after taking 1st outpost, then first vassal. I have not gotten the pop up about Raider Farms to appear when exclusively using the war planner desk's board to set up raids. So I believe it's tied to the conversations with Jammer.

 

[Jacozilla]

Saw another post that said installing multiple faction pacts was fine, so I suppose what one could do is start Jammer line and do quests till unlocking the plots, then switch over those Jammer raider + vassal to other faction.

I assume the pre-existing settlement outpost + vasal that was formerly Jammer faction can just be claimed via war desk for your other faction?