Are there any default heavy agricultural plots?

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  1. Jacozilla

    Jacozilla Active Member Community Rockstar

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    Between SS latest version (3 in 1) plus practically every SS add-on that adds plot types, all I see when I put down a 3x3 heavy agricultural plot is 2 choices by tinuvia:
    Farmer's Glue
    Universal Library Coffee

    No basic food types like mut fruit, corn etc

    Oddly in these 2 descriptions I do see, it refers to "gives same amount of food as regular heavy agricultural plots" but I seem to lack any other types.

    Dumb question - ARE there any other 3x3 heavy agri food types other than these 2 right now? Or waiting on add-on authors to make them?
     
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  2. Tinuvia

    Tinuvia Wasteland Venturers Staff Member Moderator Support Team Verified Builder

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    For now, the default Sim Settlements heavy agricultural plots are locked behind the Conqueror questline. I think there are heavy agricultural plots in a few other addon packs, but I can't find them now. I know I've seen addon authors discuss making them (@RobotsSmell ?), and at least @VersusXV has some outlandishly beautiful plots in progress if not published yet. Not sure if @uituit has moved any of his oversized ones to 3x3 (they may be too big even for that ...)
     
  3. RobotsSmell

    RobotsSmell RS Buildings Staff Member Verified Builder

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    Was thinking about doing 1, but its only in its draft stage at the moment. Dont know whether to go down the route of multiple crops or a Brahmin ranch.
    Dont think @VersusXV has his published yet. But the do look cool!
     
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  4. uituit

    uituit Secretary ;) Staff Member Administrator Moderator Support Team Verified Builder Wiki Contributor

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    yeah I have a 3x3 in Junktown now. 20190914112846_1.jpg
     
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    Irealys Active Member Community Rockstar

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    The 3x3 agricultural are criminally underused. Ok, there is nothing criminal about it, but it’s underused nonetheless.

    I’m on Xbox so I haven’t seen all the add-ons available on the nexus but there is one more Add-on that includes two 3x3 plots that I know: CaptainLaserBeam's Jampads. He recently released a version of his add-on that doesn’t require Slocum Joe so Id recommend checking it out.
     
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  6. VersusXV

    VersusXV Well-Known Member Staff Member Patreon Supporter Vault Librarian Verified Builder

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    Hoping for this month. Maybe next week if no complications happen.

    Was hoping for this week but then I keep finding things like "well this still needs to be done". I'd taken break during the summer because of PC overheating troubles. At least one of the more difficult plots is basically done now, finally got lower level stage models and fixed bugs with the linked Interior Settlement. Tons of Navmeshing for the linked interior. Not a 3x3 Ag, is sized like a 3x3 Commercial plot though currently no custom plot type exists for that one so it will be oversized 2x2 Com but will get changed to be 3x3 Com if they get added someday.

    Most recent one I'd been working on, Level 1 stage model:

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    Interior (Level 3, yes the interior changes too):
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    Most recent 3x3 Ag:
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    Xbox will probably require extra time. I am using amazing plants from Creative Gardens by Frogprincess to make it colorful and varied but the file size would be too large for Xbox. I will probably need to make vanilla plant versions, make all building Models be SCOL instead of Static(sadly this means no mat swaps) & otherwise change things up. Not ideal but that 2GB total limit is a killer. This is probably only reasonable to release on Xbox if no added textures and possibly no added models are included, which unfortunately would require significant rework. I did try to mitigate this a little on later plots by using Far Harbor/Nuka World stuff.
     
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    Irealys Active Member Community Rockstar

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    Really? That got me curious. But I also want to be surprised if I can. So I’m thinking I could list a few ideas here and you can pick anything you like. Hey, it could serve as my crazy ideas of the week.

    Note to other readers: This is meant to jog the imagination of anyone, not just RobotSmells. Have fun with anything proposed here.

    - Since you made a name for yourself with combo plots, I feel like it’s unnecessary to tell you it’s an option to have a residential plot opening. But I just did for anyone else reading. Also, since you made your name from combo plots and big designs, I feel like the best troll job would be to release a plot that is nothing but dirt and gourds.

    - Since the creator of Flotsam and Jetsam didn’t think about it (yes, I am kind of a troll sometimes), will you be the first to release a 3x3 agricultural plot intended for water?

    - 3x3 would be a solid type of plot to use trees. It has enough space to have more than one and it wouldn’t feel too cramped. Could be used an a vertical way somehow?

    - Will it be common crops or uncommon ones? A controlled corn (or other common crop) farm or a more wild “get what you can from what you get” environment? This option could work with the previous idea (wild crops and trees on uneven terrain for example) edit: damn, looks like someone pre-emptively stole my idea...

    - Will it be a comedic plot? (Would that be a first?) An agricultural plot that farms boxed food (sugar bombs, gumdrops etc)?

    And that’s all the crazy I can muster for now. At least until I get a coffee and a small nap.

    - Ok one more for the road: a giant multi-stories greenhouse farm.
     
  8. VersusXV

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    Quite a few of mine use trees.

    Ah I like this, could be really interesting
     
  9. Jacozilla

    Jacozilla Active Member Community Rockstar

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    awesome, I'll get this one too. Along with 2 from tinuvia at least I'll have some to start with before I go unlock rest of Jammer's quest line
     
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    RobotsSmell RS Buildings Staff Member Verified Builder

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    @VersusXV, that first plot is absolutely breath taking. A master piece IMO. A perfect representation of building something out of junk. It could be a (cant remember the full correct title) "Metropolis" tower block settlement in one plot. (Like Sim City has at later levels, when all your stuff has reached its full potential.) (Although I haven't seen or played Sim City, in about 15 years). Please confirm that we can add interior plots to this!!!!! Please!
     
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    VersusXV Well-Known Member Staff Member Patreon Supporter Vault Librarian Verified Builder

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    Absolutely yes! That was the whole idea behind it. Plus Interiors are a great angle for Xbox to get to have more stores without lagging, the interior models are all combined up into a single static so that reduces draw calls further. I get about 265 draw calls for the Level 3 version, before building anything.

    It is a full settlement in an interior so you can build anything you want, including things that might not make sense but I just leave it up to the player. I dislike how the default Home Plate WorkshopInterior filter is overly limiting(nothing in Structures or a bunch of other categories, just Decorations pretty much). There's a conduit that gives free power and then IDEK Logistics can handle food/water.
     
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    Irealys Active Member Community Rockstar

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    And you’ll never guess who that “edit: damn, looks like someone pre-emptively stole my idea...“ was referring to :)

    Also, am I missing some of your add-ons? I know of your Downtown one, do you have any other ones that include plots? I know of the foundation pack, a bunch of new settlements and the Super Mutant faction pack. Am I missing something?
     
  13. uituit

    uituit Secretary ;) Staff Member Administrator Moderator Support Team Verified Builder Wiki Contributor

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    FnJ does need a update and hopefully I can get my lazy ass to do something about it :P
     
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    VersusXV Well-Known Member Staff Member Patreon Supporter Vault Librarian Verified Builder

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    I have an upcoming one, it will be called Overgrowth and is centered on 3x3 Ags and a few other oversized plot ideas I have. It's taken a bit of a while because of busy IRL, PC troubles plaguing me for a while, and wanting to do more complex stuff.

    I have like 10 or 12 plots at varying levels of completion currently. I have scripted features I'd like to try but I think I'll do an initial release before doing those since will be a while to do those. Would really like to do Nexus release this month.
     
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    Oh... oh that sounds very interesting. I like the idea of an overgrowth add-on. And yeah, I could see how it could spill over to other plot types :)
     
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    Jacozilla Active Member Community Rockstar

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    What I would really like is a mod that enables all the Conqueror 3x3 ag plots without having the Jammer quest line done.

    Would be very useful for new playthrough with Conqueror uninstalled or plan to be installed later after getting settlements up/running as desired (to be later conquered). (Note -yes this is same thing in different way as using Conqueror pre-built option at newgame start but too many issues in my build/game attempts with this so trying old fashion way of build by hand, install conqueror later).

    Thus would be cool to have option to enable the new plots w/o doing the quest line.
     
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    I wonder how it works for liberators. Or anyone who uses a faction pack instead of the Jammer quest line. Does that means these plots are never an option then?
     
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    Jacozilla Active Member Community Rockstar

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    oh good question..didn't think of that. Yea, would like to know too since I planned on giving liberator a go once I get settlements built up manually and install conqueror later.
     
  20. VersusXV

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    If any 3x3 build plans are added by addon packs it will be shown even if the conqueror questline hasn't been advanced or even if conqueror is not installed(if on a v4.0.0 or greater version of Sim Settlements).
     
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