Question Strange settlement bug/paint stations galore

[dmotx08]

I recently downloaded Conqueror and the Minutemen Playable Faction(very nice mods BTW), and I'm encountering a very strange bug. Once I received the quest "The First Step" I went to liberate Tenpines Bluff with the Minutemen and everything was fine after clearing the raiders. Then I went to clear Corvega Assembly Plant and returned to the civilian at Tenpines, but on my arrival there were numerous paint stations scattered all over the Tenpines settlement. They were scattered all around the outside of the settlement and clipped through other areas within the settlement. Any idea what might be causing this? I've also reloaded older saves and the bug repeated. Any help is appreciated.

 

[1ae0bfb8]

sounds like a mod conflict

 

[dmotx08]

This is my mod list if it helps

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
+Aggressive Sounding Deathclaws
+Sim Settlements Conqueror Minutemen Playable Faction
+Sim Settlements - Conqueror
+Synths Revamped
+Advanced Animation Framework
+Faction Settlements
+Workshop Plus
+Mystic Pines Settlement With Overpass Lift
+Vehicle Overhaul
+Automatron Dialogue Fix - Less Annoying Robot Companions
+More NPCs Sandbox Expansion
+Settler Sandbox Expansion
+Settlement Tidy Bot
+Vivid Fallout - Landscapes - Textures in HD - ORIGINAL SIZE - LOWER RESOLUTION
+Boston FPS Fix - aka BostonDT PreVis-PreCombine
+GAG Settlements
+Fiddler's Green Settlement 2018
+Settlement Repair Bot
+Dogmeat 4k
+VAFS Redux
+HUDFramework
+Legendary Lamps - Lights, Lamps, Pipboy Overhaul
+Scrap Everything
+Workshop Framework
+Automatron EyeBot Companions
+More Robot Voices for Automatron
+Speedy Protectron Legs For Automatrons
+BR77 Battle Rifle
+Concord Revised
-Modern Weapon Replacers - All In One Pack - FOMOD Installer
+Wattz Laser Gun
+AK400 - Assault Rifle
+Heckler und Koch - MP7
+FN P90
+AQUILA - Laser Rifle
+Red Rocket - Window Shutters and Custom Doors
+Concrete Walls with Window Glass
+Not Your Average Neon
+Red Rocket Safehouses
+Better Goodneighbor
+Militarized Minutemen
+NAC - Natural and Atmospheric Commonwealth (Armorsmith Patch)
+NAC - Natural and Atmospheric Commonwealth
+McMillan CS5 - A Standalone Sniper Rifle
+RU556 - Assault rifle
+Locky Bastard
+Realistic Conversations Fallout 4
+Move (Get Out the Way)
+Locksmith - Lock Your Doors 'n' Containers
+Brighter Settlement Lights
+AmazingFollowerTweaks
+Assaultron Combatron
+great fps boost1
+great fps boost
+Simple Bird Remover
+NoMore-EvadeDancing
+High Res DLC Black Face Fix
+Dustbowl Overhaul
+YonaTaku's DefenseGun replacer for pipe-guns
+DefenseGun
+Realistic Guns and Bullets Overhaul
+The Eyes of Beauty Fallout Kaleidoscope Edition - All-in-One
-KS Hairdos - Addon(s) with Physics
+M'sAutomatronPartsCollection
+Visible Companion Affinity
+Sim Settlements - City Plan Pack - Contest Entries
+Sim Settlements Mayors (33 more Leaders)
+Sim Settlements - Ted's Leader Pack
+Lots More Facial Hair
+Lots More Male Hairstyles
+OCDecorator
+Immersive Dogmeat - Smart - Silent - Sneaky
+Wall Pass-Through Power Conduits
+Robot Home Defence
+Automatron - More Weapons
+Better Cooking Stations
+Auto Doors
+Homemaker - Expanded Settlements
+Generator - Fusebox-Powerbox
+WX Hair Colors
+Cheat Terminal
-Looks Menu Customization Compendium
+Start Me Up - Alternate Start and Dialogue Overhaul
+LooksMenu Body Tattoos (CBBE) (EVB or vanilla)
-HN66s and XAZOMNs Long EyeLashes for FO4
+deLuxe Makeup
-Ponytail Hairstyles by Azar v2.5a
+Diamond City Expansion
+MK14 EBR
+Beretta M9-FS Pistol (92FS)
+Accelerator Plasma Energy Weapon
+Steyr AUG A1
+MP40
+DOOMBASED Weapons Merged (Weapon Pack)
+Black Pip-Boy
+CROSS Crit Gore-verhaul
+Super Mutant Redux 2.0
+Remove Interior Fog
+Raider Overhaul WIP
+Increased Build Limit Enhanced 4K
+The Beantown Interiors Project
+Private Military Company - Brotherhood of Steel Armor Replacer
+Private Military Company
+The Mercenary - Armor Pack
+Ghouls Revamped CBBE
+Ghouls Revamped
+Crossbows of the Commonwealth
+Detailed Feral Ghouls
+Rich Merchants
+More Feral Ghouls. A Zombie Mod
+Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-
+See-Through-Scopes
-Take Cover
+Realistic Weapon Sounds
+Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul
+Sim Settlements
+LooksMenu
+Place Everywhere
+Quieter Settlements
+Lowered Weapons
+Full Dialogue Interface
+Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch
+Armorsmith Extended
+Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource (AWKCR)
+Mod Configuration Menu
+F4SE 6.04
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*DLC: Automatron
*DLC: Contraptions Workshop
*DLC: Far Harbor
*DLC: Nuka-World
*DLC: Vault-Tec Workshop
*DLC: Wasteland Workshop

 

[1ae0bfb8]

doesn't really help me, may help you. you're going to have to do the whole 'disable half my mods' routine - and see if the issue goes away - if it doesn't disable the other half.
if it goes away - disable half again - and keep doing that until you track down the culprit.
it will take you a few hours, but that's the price you pay.

 

[uituit]

Once you claim a settlement for your faction "totoms" should appear ,but if they al paint stations some kind of records hav been mixed up. Most likely a mod conflict.

You should let the author of that faction pack know about it though ,they may be able to find a solution.

 

[Nick Farrell]

1. boston fps w/ scrap everything is an issue
2. SS w/ scrap everything is an issue

personal experience above, also even with LOOT you'll still have to manually adjust your load order a little bit

https://simsettlements.com/web/wiki/index.php?title=Problematic_Mods

 

[dmotx08]

So after checking mod by mod I have found the culprit. When I uncheck Workshop Framework from Mod Organizer 2 it flags as missing masters, but the game will run and the paint stations are gone with the settlements looking normal. The issue then becomes the fact that the war planners desk are no longer present because I'm assuming the missing master. I have the latest versions of Sim Settlements, Conqueror, Workshop Framework, and Minutemen Playable Faction. Any ideas?

 

[Nick Farrell]

uninstall them, reinstall them maybe.

Load Order
1. WS FW
2. Hud FW
3. SS
4. Conqueror
5. Add-Ons
6. SMM

 

[dmotx08]

Reinstalled and reordered, still occurs once workshop framework is ticked. BTW thanks for the suggestions everyone

 

[Tinuvia]

I think the Minutemen Faction Pack have the mini Power armor station as one of their totem decorations, if that is the "paint station" you see in your settlements. They can be disabled in the City Manager holotape if they get repetitive, not sure under which section since I'm on mobile but I can check next time I'm in game.

 

[dmotx08]

Thanks Tinuvia. I went to the Minutemen Faction pack nexus site and sure enough under the bugs section there seem to be others with the same issue! Doesn't appear to have a solution yet

 

[Tinuvia]

It's not really a bug per se, more maybe an unfortunate choice of faction decorations on the faction pack author's part. The decorations are meant to indicate that the settlers show their support for your faction and the main Raider Conqueror faction has around 20 different decorations where I think the Minutemen have three (one of them the "paint station"). Conqueror randomizes the placement of the decorations so you might get some clipping every now and then. If so they can be moved around in workshop mode. But your best bet here might be to disable the Faction decorations in the City Manager holotape (unless this doesn't work for the Minutemen faction, and then it is a bug that you can chime in with the other bug reports on their Nexus page). Hope it works!

EDIT: it's in the holotape under Gameplay Options/Conqueror/Allow Faction decorations. All the options can be found on the wiki, here (kept updated by the eminent @WetRats !)