Question Settler's lagging 4 Suspended Stacks

[Tal]

Okay, so I'm trying to learn here. I've had some issues with Settler's not moving or doing anything since the beginning of this save. I could fix it by refreshing the cities, the NPCs would get unstuck, and start moving.

But now that I have quite a few settlements and it is starting to get consistent.

I'm trying to learn here. I ran ReSaver and it has 9 Active Scripts, so I'm good there since Kinggath says you need to be under 20.

But I have 4 Suspended Stacks. Picture attached.

How do I deal with Suspended Stacks? The PC Help Page only mentions them and focuses on unattached instances.

Is my best course of action to just stand in game for awhile? Refresh every city? Do suspended stacks doom your save?

 

[RayBo]

Okay, so I'm trying to learn here. I've had some issues with Settler's not moving or doing anything since the beginning of this save. I could fix it by refreshing the cities, the NPCs would get unstuck, and start moving.

But now that I have quite a few settlements and it is starting to get consistent.

I'm trying to learn here. I ran ReSaver and it has 9 Active Scripts, so I'm good there since Kinggath says you need to be under 20.

But I have 4 Suspended Stacks. Picture attached.

How do I deal with Suspended Stacks? The PC Help Page only mentions them and focuses on unattached instances.

Is my best course of action to just stand in game for awhile? Refresh every city? Do suspended stacks doom your save?

Yes! Yes! Idle your save my depend on it.

“It's a pile of scripts. Basically the ActiveScript count gets so high that it hits pause on the entire stack. It will clear up the same way ActiveScripts do - with time inactive.”

now, the bad...
“Though depending on load order, it can get into a state where it's impossible to resolve without console commands or terminating active scripts in Fallrim.“

Thank KG for the above. I learned something too.

I if you try any console cmd or deleting them there’s a good probability of other unforeseen issues so make sure to make a control save.

lastly, try to rollback and figure out the area or time of glitch and replay that part. I do that often as it is a LO issue that manifest at a point when some game progress is active. It may not be a persistent issue in other words.

 

[Tal]

Okay, so sit idle. My goal should be to clean up the suspended stacks so that they show zero?

Or are those permanently borked?

 

[Tal]

Okay. I'm down to 7 active and 1 suspended. Seems to be clearing up.

 

[RayBo]

Okay. I'm down to 7 active and 1 suspended. Seems to be clearing up.

Okay, so sit idle. My goal should be to clean up the suspended stacks so that they show zero?

Or are those permanently borked?

hopefully they will clear up.

I have found the more complex games really do need idle time to stay healthy. Other users on the forums have been putting out this same advice.

@Phil_T_Casual has done the best at articulating this advice.

 

[Tal]

Ohhhh. So I went to Covenant and started some stuff up there.

And yikes.

I'm not even at any of my settlements.

 

[RayBo]

Yeah there is something in your game that is really backing the scripts up.

Likely it has been happening for a while.

 

[Tal]

I'm gonna go blow up a couple of Settlements, see if that helps.

They are all on Autobuild and autoupgrade.

Is there a general rule for how many settlements you should be attempting to upgrade at once?

 

[Tal]

Okay it is back down. I'm going from 10 to 18 Active Scripts usually and 1 to 2 suspended. Every now and then that spikes.

What is normal Script behavior for Sim Settlements?

 

[RayBo]

Okay it is back down. I'm going from 10 to 18 Active Scripts usually and 1 to 2 suspended. Every now and then that spikes.

What is normal Script behavior for Sim Settlements?

push max threads up to 30 until they come down to as few as possible

I don’t know what is normal for your game? I pre build city plans to level 3 while in the vault. So my SS scripts are minuscule and I just set up a few Settlements manually with plots after that.

I have 500 mods running 4 active scripts, none are SS most of the time.

 

[Tal]

Yeah I actually started over with Conq to do just that.

Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.

 

[Steph]

I tried to run the crime and punishment Mod with SS and Conqueror. and experienced this same kind of behavior.

 

[Tal]

Well, crap. After starting a new game with the Settlements all prebuilt it is till doing this.

That leads me to believe it is another mod.

Going to start over a dump everything except SS.

Current mods:


"0081","+","OCDecorator"

"0099","+","Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch"

"0100","+","Fallout 4 Enhanced Color Correction"

"0101","+","Critical Hits Outside of VATS"

"0102","+","Holotape Display Shelves"

"0104","+","Armorsmith Extended"

"0105","+","Silent UI"

"0106","+","Centered camera"

"0107","+","Quieter Settlements"

"0108","+","Lowered Weapons"

"0109","+","HUDFramework"

"0110","+","Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource (AWKCR)"

"0111","+","Eli's Armour Compendium"

"0112","+","Immersive HUD - iHUD"

"0113","+","Sim Settlements"

"0114","+","Settlement Menu Manager"

"0115","+","Sim Settlements - Conqueror"

"0116","+","Sim Settlements Conqueror Faction Pack- Minutemen (Liberators)"

"0117","+","Workshop Framework"

"0118","+","Militarized Minutemen"

"0119","+","Militarized Minutemen - Uniforms Patches and Insignia Addon"

"0120","+","Sim Settlements Mega Pack - Year One"

"0121","+","Sim Settlements Mega Pack - Year Two"

"0122","+","Salvage Beacons"

"0123","+","Longer Power Lines"

"0124","+","STRAC Hats"

"0125","+","Valdacil's Item Sorting"

"0126","+","CROSS_MojaveManhunter"

"0127","+","K-9 Harness -- Tactical Body Armor and Backpack for Dogmeat"

"0128","+","Scrounger's Weekly magazine collection"

"0129","+","VUWR - Vanilla Unique Weapons Remastered"

"0130","+","No Rail Road Ballistic Weave"

"0131","+","CROSS Jetpack"

"0132","+","Improved Map with Visible Roads"

"0133","+","Commonwealth Vendors Stock Nuka World Ammo"

"0134","+","Survival Mode - Modified Ammo Weight (Reduced and Increased weight) Far Harbor and Nuka World Compatable"

"0135","+","Lone Wanderer Fast Travel V2.0.0"

"0136","+","Creation Club Delayed"

"0137","+","Charismatic Eyewear"

"0138","+","Less Annoying HC Messages"

"0139","+","Easy Lockpicking"

"0140","+","Nate's Old Footlocker v2.0"

"0141","+","Quieter Assaultrons"

"0142","+","Easy Hacking"

"0143","+","Equippable DogMeat Skins"

 

[Tal]

So with nothing but Sim Settlements and the Unofficial Patch I get about half the settlers that animate, and the other half just sit there. I'll get a 6 to 8 suspended scripts, and those will clear up in a few minutes, but the the problem still persists.

(Level 3 Cities)