Plot Types not showing up

[CommissarHark]

Heya,

I've been playing through SS2 for a bit now and I'm decently through the first bit of Chapter 1, around the 1/3 mark. I cannot for the life of me get anything other than 2x2 plots in my settlements, though. All I have is Residential, Agricultural, and Production and the normal 2x2s for them. He gave me the makeshift and it didn't unlock anything, and have several add-ons but no 1x1 or 3x3 options.
When I first started this save I had no add-on packs installed. I installed them afterwards once I was a bit of a ways into building because I wanted some more variety. The add-on buildings plans for the 2x2s are loading fine. I'll put my load order below for review, and I am using a Smashed Patch.
inb4 its suggested: I used the Purge Plot Cache function and it did nothing. I also did the unlock all plots cheat and it worked fine, but it unlocked plot types, like Martial, Municipal, Commercial, and Relaxation/Entertainment/Whatever, that I shouldn't have access to yet so I'd like to avoid doing that if there are any other options that might work.

Thanks in advance.

Spoiler: Load Order

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[msalaba]

I also did the unlock all plots cheat and it worked fine, but it unlocked plot types

IIRC there is an Unlock All Plot Sizes option. That should solve your issue.

As for the cause, I don't think anyone could answer that. I can say in 100's of SS2 playthroughs I have never encountered an issue with plot sizes not unlocking.
You can try:

1. Start a new game, get the City Manager holotape and skip the MQ to New Plots on the Block.
2. Wait for all the background quest stuff to complete.
3. See if all plot sizes unlocked.

If not, create a new profile with only WSFW and SS2 then do the previous steps again. If they still didn't unlock, try reinstalling WSFW and SS2.
In a profile with only WSFW and SS2, you can also try installing 1 SS2 addon at a time doing the previous steps each time to see if an addon pack is causing the issue.
I doubt this issue is being caused by SS2 itself and any non-SS2 plugin.

Edit - An added thought:
Do you use a sorting/tagging mod? Did you sort quests? I have heard that sorting/tagging SS2 quests can cause issues.

 

[Antoine Soverie]

You'd really only need to skip to "If I had a hammer" (second quest), that's when all the sizes are unlocked.

 

[Captain LaserBeam]

I've sometimes had the plot sizes not unlock after If I Had a Hammer, but it was usually fixed by saving, exiting the game, and relaunching it again. On load, WSFW would usually load up the plot sizes. Never had the issue persist longer than that though.

 

[Aldjeron]

My current playthrough has this bug. I've tried all mentioned above no luck. restarting again i guess.

 

[Skywise001]

Would the refresh designs thing also help with that? I think its in the Holotape.

 

[Karvoc]

If the tape dose not work

cqf ss2_plotmanager ResetAllCaches
cqf ss2_main ForceUnlockAllBuildingPlans

 

[Aldjeron]

THEORY: OK I did my restart and I think I figured out what happens. IF you don't talk to Ol' Paul to start the If I had a Hammer you won't get the unlock popup explaining that the different plot sizes all provide the same thing, and its all about space. So they unlock right at the start of the quest.
If anyone can test this to verify could maybe provide an answer for the team.

 

[Breacca]

IIRC there is an Unlock All Plot Sizes option. That should solve your issue.

Do you happen to know where on the tape it is?
Or which console command does this?
Because i can find nothing for plot sizes...

EDIT: Testet an earlier save and startet "if i had a hammer" and all plot sizes unlocked.
But i can NOT go back to that quest because iam way into chapter 2 allready.
So what now?

 

[Skywise001]

Do you happen to know where on the tape it is?
Or which console command does this?
Because i can find nothing for plot sizes...

Jake gives you the tape with the industrial and agriculture. Or you can reach in the front window of the hardware store and pick it up off Jake's desk inside.

 

[Breacca]

Jake gives you the tape with the industrial and agriculture. Or you can reach in the front window of the hardware store and pick it up off Jake's desk inside.

Oh i have the tape.
But i cannot find the cheat to get all plot sizes.
My question was where this step is on the tape.
Under Tools > Cheats are many options but none for plot sizes.

EDIT:
To be save i unlocked everything in here but to now avail.
Stil only 2 x 2´s

 

[Breacca]

Update:
I made a clean safe -> uninstalled SS2 and all.
Started game new -> safed and quit.
Activated all SS2 mods and started with my last safe.
Used the cheats to skip all quests till my old queststep.
Waited about 10 minutes while the quests updated themselves.
Gained unfortunately 3 levels meanwhile.
Now everything seems to work.

 

[Skywise001]

Update:
I made a clean safe -> uninstalled SS2 and all.
Started game new -> safed and quit.
Activated all SS2 mods and started with my last safe.
Used the cheats to skip all quests till my old queststep.
Waited about 10 minutes while the quests updated themselves.
Gained unfortunately 3 levels meanwhile.
Now everything seems to work.

Its fantastic you got it to work. But frustrating as all heck it is with a new save. :/

 

[bran808]

I actually just ran into this issue as well. I only have 2x2 and 2x2 with foundation available for all plot types. I tried all of the cheat options but they did not work. The weird part is that I was able to unlock the plots when i reloaded a save I made just before leaving Vault 111 from the exact same play-through.

Edit
Forgot to add that I've noticed that interior plots and 3x3 plots that are part of city plans do work

 

[bran808]

THEORY: OK I did my restart and I think I figured out what happens. IF you don't talk to Ol' Paul to start the If I had a Hammer you won't get the unlock popup explaining that the different plot sizes all provide the same thing, and its all about space. So they unlock right at the start of the quest.
If anyone can test this to verify could maybe provide an answer for the team.

As a follow up to my previous post I can confirm that this post from Aldjeron is correct for me at least. I luckily had a save from my current play-through that was right at the "If I had a Hammer" quest. Going up to Old Paul and exhausting his dialogue unlocked the other plot sizes. I changed nothing in my mod list. Now I just need to try and figure out if there is a way to fix it without having to revert a long ways back.

Edit
Did some testing using the holotape cheats as well as the console command cqf ss2_main ForceUnlockAllBuildingPlans and confirmed that they do work before and during the "If I had a Hammer" quest. Okay I've been writing this while testing and found something weird, the holotape and console commands actually continue to work well past "If I Had a Hammer", all the way up to "Martial Law." Between "Martial Law" and "War is Good For Business" / "Peace of Mind" is where my save file stops being able to use the cheat to unlock the plot sizes.

Using my working save from the start of "Martial Law" I tested the cheat while quest skipping and found that the cheat actually continued to work even up to "How to HQ," after which I stopped testing. Not sure what to make of this tbh.

On a side note this issue seems unrelated to the Aiden bug I posted in another thread as Aiden still popped in out of nowhere when skipping "How to HQ."