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New Start with some Problem?SS2 1.0.5

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Not good for a Mod if it make problems direct when you begin a new game .But then from what Save the Mod is Talking at that point i don't have any Save.
 
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Does the same thing for me. Had been doing it since about 1.0.3 for me though, I had just assumed it was meant to do that.
 
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Can I ask if you can test with just SS2 enable and no other mods active? I am beginning to suspect there is a mod conflict causing this but I haven't been able to replicate it consistently on my side?
 
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This is my complete load order as of right now, which still provoked those messages from a New Game (it takes until Vault Tec Rep is walking across the street to 'our' house before the first message pops up for me, and Codsworth was just saying 'maternal affection' when the second one came up), in the order it shows ingame:
Unofficial Fallout4 Patch
HUDFramework
Workshop Framework
SS2
Workshop Plus
Flamer Pistol
3DNPC_FO4Settler
SS2_ruined_simsettlement_addon
SS2-PraRandomAddon
CraftingFramework
SS2WastelandVenturers
Craftable Acids and Adhesives
SKKCombatStalkers
JunkTownTwo
ArmorClothingOverhaul
I can't see anything there that should be interfering. (I also have MCM and F4SE too, but those don't show up in that list for obvious reasons)
 
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yaugieLC said:
This is my complete load order as of right now, which still provoked those messages from a New Game (it takes until Vault Tec Rep is walking across the street to 'our' house before the first message pops up for me, and Codsworth was just saying 'maternal affection' when the second one came up), in the order it shows ingame:
Unofficial Fallout4 Patch
HUDFramework
Workshop Framework
SS2
Workshop Plus
Flamer Pistol
3DNPC_FO4Settler
SS2_ruined_simsettlement_addon
SS2-PraRandomAddon
CraftingFramework
SS2WastelandVenturers
Craftable Acids and Adhesives
SKKCombatStalkers
JunkTownTwo
ArmorClothingOverhaul
I can't see anything there that should be interfering. (I also have MCM and F4SE too, but those don't show up in that list for obvious reasons)
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If you get a chance please do a test with just SS2. I have some games that pop it up and some new games which doesn't depending on the stage I am of my mod build. I have some of the same mods as you so I suspect it will require a smaller test set on my side.
 
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BinaryMisfit said:
If you get a chance please do a test with just SS2. I have some games that pop it up and some new games which doesn't depending on the stage I am of my mod build. I have some of the same mods as you so I suspect it will require a smaller test set on my side.
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It LOOKS like it's only doing it for me if both Wasteland Venturers and JunkTown Addon Packs are active before hitting New Game. I have no idea why those specific two in particular, but it's the only combination of my mods I could find that'd always do it. Potentially hitting some sort of invisible data threshold?
 
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I did some testing too:
1) Bare minimum for SS2 - no error
2) All mods without addons - no error
3) All mods - error
4) All mods with only Wasteland Venturers and JunkTown - no error
5) All mods again - no error
It seems that addons are causing the error, but it also could be SS2 itself.
 
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i have had that for a while and i concluded it is due to script overload at the start.
I have not had any issues later regardless despite it popping up.
 
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Saito404 said:
I did some testing too:
1) Bare minimum for SS2 - no error
2) All mods without addons - no error
3) All mods - error
4) All mods with only Wasteland Venturers and JunkTown - no error
5) All mods again - no error
It seems that addons are causing the error, but it also could be SS2 itself.
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@damanding This might need to be added to the bug list?
 
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Qerewen said:
i have had that for a while and i concluded it is due to script overload at the start.
I have not had any issues later regardless despite it popping up.
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Yeah, everything SEEMS to still work even if those popups come up, I'm just wary of it maybe causing 'hidden' problems (especially with how many wierd-ass bugs I've been having).
 
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Not sure what is the Problem and i can not look into it i have near 240 Mods running.This was my New game after i final find a very stable and a Top Mod combination .With exact the same Mods and Load order i have play my other save until level 150 with near every Settlement heavy overbuild and with near only SS2 things.No lags no CTD or any kind of problems in that save even on the road to that i switch a lot of Mods mid game and make a lot of Save Fix.If some Addon make that problem it must have start after some update with it as i use all of them and all from the Day they are on Nexus to download.
But again i dont understand that Message.From what save file we are talking?At the Creation of your MC you don't have any Save only after when you finish it the Game make an Auto Save.
 
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yaugieLC said:
Yeah, everything SEEMS to still work even if those popups come up, I'm just wary of it maybe causing 'hidden' problems (especially with how many wierd-ass bugs I've been having).
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its not that the scripts break its more that they are timing out.
i have quite a few mods that inject stuff into LL and they run once even during the character creation scene.
 
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yaugieLC said:
It LOOKS like it's only doing it for me if both Wasteland Venturers and JunkTown Addon Packs are active before hitting New Game. I have no idea why those specific two in particular, but it's the only combination of my mods I could find that'd always do it. Potentially hitting some sort of invisible data threshold?
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I have both wasteland venturer and junk town installed and I never seen this message. So it’s not simply that.
 
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Irealys said:
I have both wasteland venturer and junk town installed and I never seen this message. So it’s not simply that.
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Weird. It must be yet another "only on MY computer" issue. I suspect it's hitting some arbitrary build-specific threshold value for number of scripts trying to run during SS2's initialisation or something.
 
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yaugieLC said:
Weird. It must be yet another "only on MY computer" issue. I suspect it's hitting some arbitrary build-specific threshold value for number of scripts trying to run during SS2's initialisation or something.
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My bet would be more towards it's a specific combination of mods or something. If it was your computer alone nobody else would have the issue but tht's not the case here. You are not alone. But because my load order is basically SS2 and necessary mods for it, the addons and true storm and nothing else, I can at least confirm it's not simply two addons that are doing this.

It would take someone who understand PC modding much, MUCH better than I do to get to the bottom of this, I'm just giving the information I can to try and find the real issue an hopefully have it resolved.
 
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Irealys said:
My bet would be more towards it's a specific combination of mods or something. If it was your computer alone nobody else would have the issue but tht's not the case here. You are not alone. But because my load order is basically SS2 and necessary mods for it, the addons and true storm and nothing else, I can at least confirm it's not simply two addons that are doing this.

It would take someone who understand PC modding much, MUCH better than I do to get to the bottom of this, I'm just giving the information I can to try and find the real issue an hopefully have it resolved.
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Yeah I phrased that poorly, that's more like what I actually meant - that it's some sort of "combination of factors" thing, and that it was that specific combination that was tripping it for me personally. got to stop trying to Internet BEFORE coffee
 
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BinaryMisfit said:
Can I ask if you can test with just SS2 enable and no other mods active? I am beginning to suspect there is a mod conflict causing this but I haven't been able to replicate it consistently on my side?
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I vaguely remember Kinggath commenting on this shortly after this code was added. It was something about it could cause false positives during game startup and was safe to ignore the message. IIRC, it was in the early 1.0.0a-f-ish beta patch in the news forum. Sorry I can't remember what version this code was added... goes back to drinking coffee...

Edit- I recently started a new game on v1.0.4 and did not receive this message. I do not currently have any addons loaded. But I am using the Armor Clothing Overhaul @yaugieLC listed above.

Edit2- after drinking more coffee Thinking about it more, there might be somthing in the addon registration code that is causing this error message to trigger. After testing the code in my own mod, I can tell you the engine produces unexpected results...
 
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