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Bug lvl 2 Minutemen Quarters - Zero Defense

DarkUncleBoh

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I've read over things a few times to try and make sure I'm not doing anything wrong... hope I'm not just being an idiot.

Two different settlements had guard tents. I upgraded one to lvl2 Minutemen Quarters... waited for the recruits to spawn... everything looked good. Then I noticed that it didn't appear to be giving me any defense. Going into workshop mode and mousing over the building only shows power and settler working the plot, no longer shows a defense value with it... looking at the plaque, shows a defense value of 0. I still had enough defense in that settlement, so I'm not sure if it was just a display problem and it really was there behind the scenes...

So I went to another settlement and upgraded guard tent to Minutemen Quarters, and same deal. Guard tent showed defense both on mouse over in workshop mode as well as on the plaque - now it shows neither, and this time my defense dropped below required for the settlement as a result.

I understand the calculation takes into account other factions, but there are no other guard tents in the game that have been upgraded yet - only these two.

Note: I do get the happiness, and the food and water costs are there - only missing the defense.
- dynamic needs are on
- defense was there before upgrading
- I refreshed the plot just in case
- I waited a couple of min to make sure there wasn't a script catching up still
 
Another of my settlement's lvl1 building came up for upgrade, so to test I tried upgrading to BOS -- same thing. It gave defense as lvl1, but no longer any defense as lvl2.

Edit: I then took the castle and tried upgrading one to lvl3 -- still no defense.

Version 2.0.7a of SS
Version 2.0.7 of SSIR
Version 1.0.2 of JtB Utils
 
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I can confirm this bug. I started playing with dynamic needs turned off but then turned it on after I had set up Minutement Quarters in 3 settlements. I refreshed all the local plots as above but nothing happened. I get the -6 for food and water, but the plaque shows 0 defense and my settlement total defense is -18.

Version 2.1.0 of SS
Version 2.1.0 of SSIR
Version 1.0.2 of JtB Utils
 
This happens sometimes. I have avoided the bug by saving prior to upgrading and/or saving before I refresh the plot. Basically save, then refresh the plot a few times (always waiting for the "new barracks registered" message before refreshing). Try entering and exiting the settlement boundries or fast travelling away and back after refreshing. Or, after you save before refreshing try and restart your game. If refreshing the plot isnt working try and select the plot like you are about to move it but press "cancel the movement" or else the building will get knocked down and rebuilt as a level 1. All of this is unscientific kentucky windage attempts at fixing the issue and it works for me.
 
I'm having the same problem. 2 so far in different settlements, took them level two and dropped to no defence. Tried waiting, refreshing, hitting with the hammer, leaving and coming back to no avail. Will try Liberty Bull's tip and see if that works.
 
I'm seeing the same thing. Could this be related to the wrong building for plot problem?
 
Got one working eventually, must have refreshed a dozen times, and a few aborted moves before it worked.
 
I have since got another two minutemen plots to work. Neither worked when first built up, but a mix of hitting refresh on the sensor and picking the plot up in workshop but canceling, then waiting for the barrack detected message worked after 3 or 4 attempts.
 
I first off wanted to say I love the barracks plot. It adds real role play depth and character to a settlement, and your overall play through. Its a dynamic plot too, love seeing the guards on patrol. I am currently doing a BOS run and have my peasants farming and salvaging while my BOS guards keep a watch.

Unfortunately I have run into the same bug. Upgrading to level 2 removes any defense provided by the plot . In some cases I have been lucky enough , by refreshing plot or by dragging it and canceling, to get it to refresh and provide defense. In other cases no matter how often I do it , it doesn't seem to take.

Any word or idea on the cause of this bug, or other type of work around?

Thanks!
 
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