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Bug CTD with new game saves/any saves

TheSisterFister3000

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Im wondering if anyone else has come across this but after narrowing it down, combing through every mod i have, i figured out that Sim Settlements 3 in 1/Complex city plans has been causing my saves to become useless. I'd start a new game, save the game after picking my character, exit out of the game, try to load back in and it crashes after about 30 seconds of loading the game.

I've had no problems with Sim Settlements in the past. I even had a huge load order with Sim settlements and it still worked perfectly. But i guess something broke with the new update for me. The crashing started almost immediately after the creation engine was updated about a week or 2 ago [FUCK YOU TODD IM NOT BUYING 76]. Even after i updated Sim Settlements, it's still causing the crashing. I reinstalled the game and my entire modlist to figure this out. I even reinstalled everything else except sim settlements 3 in 1 to test it. If i need to move the thread, i will happily do so. kinda my first time bug reporting.

and here's my load order.



0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
8 8 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
9 9 AAF.esm
10 a ArmorKeywords.esm
11 b Damage Threshold.esm
12 c TrueStormsFO4.esm
13 d Homemaker.esm
14 e HUDFramework.esm
15 f SimSettlements.esm
254 FE 0 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_DaltonFarm.esl
254 FE 1 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_WarwickHomestead.esl
254 FE 2 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_AbernathyFarm.esl
254 FE 3 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Castle.esl
254 FE 4 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_VisitorCenter.esl
254 FE 5 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Vault88.esl
254 FE 6 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_TenpinesBluff.esl
254 FE 7 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_TaffingtonBoathouse.esl
254 FE 8 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_SunshineTidings.esl
254 FE 9 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_StarlightDrivein.esl
254 FE a SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Somerville.esl
254 FE b SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Slog.esl
254 FE c SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_SanctuaryHills.esl
254 FE d SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_RedRocket.esl
254 FE e SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_OutpostZimonja.esl
254 FE f SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_OberlandStation.esl
254 FE 10 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Nordhagen.esl
254 FE 11 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Murkwater.esl
254 FE 12 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_MechanistsLair.esl
254 FE 13 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_LongfellowsCabin.esl
254 FE 14 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CoastalCottage.esl
254 FE 15 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_KingsportLighthouse.esl
254 FE 16 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CountyCrossing.esl
254 FE 17 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Covenant.esl
254 FE 18 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_JamaicaPlain.esl
254 FE 19 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_HangmansAlley.esl
254 FE 1a SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_GreentopNursery.esl
254 FE 1b SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CroupManor.esl
254 FE 1c SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Graygarden.esl
254 FE 1d SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_FinchFarm.esl
254 FE 1e SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_EgretToursMarina.esl
254 FE 1f SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_EchoLake.esl
16 10 FunctionalDisplays.esp
17 11 CREAtiveClutter.esp
18 12 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
19 13 3dscopes.esp
20 14 PlayerComments.esp
21 15 dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
22 16 Atomic Lust.esp
23 17 RohZima_RealAnimatedPoses.esp
24 18 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
25 19 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
26 1a AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
27 1b ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp
28 1c ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorByClass.esp
29 1d Armorsmith Extended.esp
30 1e BrighterSettlementLights.esp
31 1f console.esp
32 20 Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp
33 21 CWSS Redux.esp
34 22 PlayerCommentsCWSSPatch.esp
35 23 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
36 24 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
37 25 DarkerNights.esp
38 26 DarkerNightsDetection.esp
39 27 dinoshelf.esp
40 28 dinoshelf_retex.esp
41 29 dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp
42 2a Grasslands - Healthy.esp
43 2b ImmersiveLoversEmbraceRemastered.esp
44 2c KSHairdos.esp
45 2d MilkThatBrahmin.esp
46 2e More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
47 2f PA-Quick Animations.esp
48 30 PD_VisualReload.esp
49 31 RainofBrassPetals.esp
50 32 Rufgt's Animations.esp
51 33 Tougher Vertibirds.esp
52 34 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
53 35 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
54 36 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp
55 37 TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
56 38 LongRangeBulletHoles.esp
57 39 LongerPowerLines3x.esp
58 3a Better Locational Damage - DLC_WWorkshop.esp
59 3b Better VATS - 0.75.esp
60 3c Better Locational Damage.esp
61 3d BLD - Leveled Lists - DLC.esp
62 3e FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
63 3f FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
64 40 Better Locational Damage - DLC_Automatron.esp
65 41 BTInteriors_Project.esp
66 42 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
67 43 SOTS.esp
68 44 BTInt_Optimization.esp
69 45 MojaveImports.esp
70 46 ValdacilsItemSorting-CosmeticsByClass.esp
71 47 Radrose Usability Enhancements.esp
72 48 ImmersiveScrapping_SeasonPass.esp
73 49 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - MojaveImports.esp
74 4a FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS-WI.esp
75 4b FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp
76 4c Crafting Mastery.esp
77 4d InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp
78 4e FaceMaxson.esp
79 4f PlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.esp
80 50 Campsite.esp
81 51 Campsite-Full-Sleep.esp
82 52 Campsite-AWKCR.esp
83 53 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
84 54 Better Locational Damage - DLC_Far_Harbor.esp
85 55 Better Locational Damage - DLC_Nuka_World.esp
86 56 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
87 57 Minutemenoverhaul.esp
88 58 ImmersiveDrumlinDiner.esp
89 59 Realistic Survival Damage.esp
90 5a Craftable Armor Size.esp
91 5b WET.esp
92 5c Rangergearnew.esp
93 5d GetDirty.esp
94 5e Lasers Have No Recoil.esp
95 5f More Smarter Companions Mod.esp
96 60 ImmersiveScrapping_SeasonPassVisPatch.esp
97 61 Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp
98 62 CBBE.esp
99 63 LooksMenu.esp
100 64 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
101 65 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Minutemenoverhaul.esp
102 66 Better Locational Damage - Valdacil's Item Sorting - Patch.esp
103 67 Weapons of Fate.esp
104 68 Better Perks - Enhanced.esp
105 69 BetterNightVision.esp
106 6a SettlementMenuManager.esp
107 6b Marmo1233 - Immersive Settlers.esp
108 6c BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
109 6d DWUK_LexingtonInteriors.esp
110 6e FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
111 6f DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
112 70 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Armorsmith Extended.esp
113 71 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - BTInteriors_Project.esp
114 72 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Campsite.esp
115 73 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Craftable Armor Size.esp
116 74 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - DWUK_LexingtonInteriors.esp
117 75 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
118 76 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
119 77 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - ImmersiveScrapping.esp
120 78 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Marmo1233 - Immersive Settlers.esp
121 79 Radrose - Valdacil Patch - MilkThatBrahmin.esp
122 7a Radrose - Valdacil Patch - SOTS.esp
123 7b SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
124 7c Radrose - Valdacil Patch - TrueStormsFO4.esp
125 7d Radrose - Valdacil Patch - SimSettlements.esp
126 7e Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
127 7f ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp
Scrap Everything - Core.esp
128 80 BetterSettlers.esp
129 81 BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
130 82 BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp
 
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kinggath

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Can you try the same test to check for crashing after reloading a save by JUST loading Sim Settlements? If that doesn't crash, then it's likely just an ordering issue so it will just require juggling some mods around to try and find a good sort.
 

kinggath

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What if you just install half of the complex cities? Could be your install is reacting oddly to the script data limit in FO4.
 

TheSisterFister3000

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What if you just install half of the complex cities? Could be your install is reacting oddly to the script data limit in FO4.

Still the same problem, I can try enabling/disabling different ones to test which might be making the crash, but i'm thinking that i might have to do without the complex cites patch if its script data limits. Hopefully, i can get it all to work soon because i love this mod and the city designs.

EDIT: Loaded the game up with all mods including Sim Settlements 3 in 1 but excluding the Complex City plans. Saves work perfectly. Quite a strange bug this is.
 
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