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Question No Sim Settlements Menu

CptnEric

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I'm hoping someone can point out the obvious thing I'm missing, but I cannot get the Sim Settlements Build menu to appear.

I've recently reloaded FallOut 4 and started with the mods KingGath is doing in the latest play thru (Season 2). I played a bit, throwing out mods and adding mods until I lost the Sim Settlements menu. Eventually I tossed Vortex aside, loaded Mod Organizer 2 and started from scratch.

I don't know how many times I've started game play from the beginning, from saved games (from Nexus), with and without StartMeUp. I play until I can use the workshop at Sanctuary. My latest load order contains a few mods to make get to Sanctuary as fast as possible (though I don't have faster terminals loaded). My mod list is below and in the last run, all of the SS Complex plan plugins are disabled.

I bet I have played the game up to getting workshop access at Sanctuary at least 20 times. In not a single instance have I seen the Sim Settlements build menu. I have:

- made sure I'm running the latest version of F4SE
- Installed any/all Windows updates
- Rebooted multiple times
- Started from scratch (i.e. no mods)
- Redownloaded the latest version of each mod
- Run LOOT
- Using Sim Settlement 3-in-1
- Checked the Problematic Mods page


# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
*Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
*Mod-DeanomanEasiestHacking.esl
*ArmorKeywords.esm
*HUDFramework.esm
*SimSettlements.esm
*WorkshopFramework.esm
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_AbernathyFarm.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Castle.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CoastalCottage.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CountyCrossing.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Covenant.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CroupManor.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_DaltonFarm.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_EchoLake.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_EgretToursMarina.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_FinchFarm.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Graygarden.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_GreentopNursery.esl
*SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_HangmansAlley.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_JamaicaPlain.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_KingsportLighthouse.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_LongfellowsCabin.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_MechanistsLair.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Murkwater.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Nordhagen.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_OberlandStation.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_OutpostZimonja.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_RedRocket.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_SanctuaryHills.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Slog.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Somerville.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_StarlightDrivein.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_SunshineTidings.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_TaffingtonBoathouse.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_TenpinesBluff.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Vault88.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_VisitorCenter.esl
SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_WarwickHomestead.esl
*SettlementMenuManager.esp
*Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
*CommonwealthConifersREDUX.esp
*Armorsmith Extended.esp
 
By chance, has SettlementMenuManager.esp been ESL converted?
 
Default FormIDs are out of range, and compacting FormIDs breaks SMM.

My process was to redownload and install the new copy without touching. But I will double check.
If an ESL'd SMM was ever in use, I believe a new game would most likely be required at this point.

Otherwise I would try running Settlement Menu Rescue from SMM holotape.

I checked mine - I cannot convert unless compacted in CK first... don't know if the OP did this...
I asked it since I experienced the same when trying ESL'd SMM. Compacting breaks it. A major sign of this is if there is no Sim Settlements category and the plots/etc are also not found in Special, especially if even from a new game on current setup. A part of the benefit for me to try ESL'ing on my end is to be able to have a chance to know when something like this happens due to having also tried it.
 
I opened the SSM plugin with FO4Edit and it did indeed have the ESL flag set. So I reinstalled and checked the plugin again with FO4Edit to ensure the flag was NOT set. Then I loaded a previous save with minimal plugins and just gotten access to the workshop at Sanctuary. There was no Sim Settlements menu. Rebuilt the menu with SSM. Still no menu.

Next was to load a save, with zero mods, at the Freedom Museum (so I could pickup the Sim Settlements holotape). No Sim Settlements items in the upstairs room (but that's covered elsewhere). Generous use of the console commands KAH and UNLOCK got me back to Sanctuary. Add the SS holotape to inventory, pop it in the PipBoy, hit the workshop, and viola, there is the menu. Made a full save right there and exited. Then I fired up FO4Edit, compacted the FormIDs for SSM and set the flag for ESL. Reloaded my save and I still have the SS menu.

So maybe the FormIDs didn't get compacted before getting setting the ESL flag. I'm not sure. Anyway, it's now working and I can once again begin downloading mods and installing them.

Thanks to everyone who commented and helped me walk through all of this. Special thanks to VersusXV for spotting the ESLified mod!
 
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