Fallout 76

[RayBo]

Speaking of this, 76 visuals of the wasteland are beautiful. Anyone try the mod adding this (the trees and environment) to Fallout 4?

-- I couldn't find the nexus link... if anyone has it?

Boston Natural Surroundings
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/30673

Hey John, I recommend the above right now. It is amazing.

The author says it is inspired by 76. So it may be the one you were asking about?

I really like frogprincessQ4 but IMHO the mod by Silverfox600 is the premier mod in this category right now.

 

[woodfuzzy]

I did find where the scorched beasts come from. Was not a good place to be with just a machete. took me almost an hour to get out of the area.
Also took to level 30 before I got a lock pick perk!

 

[uituit]

Also took to level 30 before I got a lock pick perk!

Ouch I was able to get mine a level 5

 

[RayBo]

Played Fallout 76 for 16hrs yesterday. So, maybe 30 hr total. Hahaha $2.00 / hr. I want to like it. I am trying to like it. But I’ve had more fun clean installing FO4 and all my mods than playing Fallout 76.

I love everything fallout but this to me feels like, "visiting a good friend…..after a lobotomy….. from Doc Weathers... using a plastic flat wear as interments."
The light might be on, but no one is home kind of thing. This would be funny but unfortunately it is literally what I mean. No one is there; will but you, and a kid yelling at his real dad with the mic on.

But I did find a cool toy for Woodfuzzy!



After spending hours, losing all my resources taking over my first workbench at that freaking power plant. It feels like I traded settlement building for crafting and inventory management. For none of the satisfaction.

But hey, it does have a quest line

Oh, wait. hahahaa there is a reason I repeated the dope with glasses scratching his head....oh good lord, did I just say repeat? Where is Preston, holy cow! I now WANT Garvey back!

I'll keep trying

After all, I have at least until StarField to learn to like it.

On the bright side even after 4000hrs I still really enjoy a modded FO4.

 

[pyratelv]

After all, I have at least until StarField to learn to like it.

Fun Fact- Bethesda is going to use this same antiquated Game Engine for Starfield.

 

[woodfuzzy]

It took me a while.. level 25ish before I figured out that melee works much better than guns for the majority of the time. Still need a backup gun for ha ha can't reach me! hehehe
Personally I never liked melee or power armor. Buuut... gotta do what ya gotta do! And I must say.. fusion cores are a dime a dozen! I have 28 in my stash box and 14 on me. Plus I have like 13 of the launch codes pieces... well until I die & someone snatches my goodies. LOL
The biggest issue I have.. all the bloody quests. I've found 3 quests and 1 event so far that are broken.

Oh.. if anyone knows an easy way (ie: without getting killed 19 times) to take down a scorched beast.. let me know!

 

[woodfuzzy]

Ouch I was able to get mine a level 5

LOL!
I had expert hacker at level 5 that's what cornfused me. Figured lock pick & hacker would be the main ones right off the bat.

 

[woodfuzzy]

But I did find a cool toy for Woodfuzzy!

LOL! I seen those! If you do the "calibration" quest.. you can just kill the bad guys and let the timer run out... quest completes for all of them. Same with the "cup of tea" quest.

 

[RayBo]

Fun Fact- Bethesda is going to use this same antiquated Game Engine for Starfield.

Yeah, I am not sure I have a problem with the engine itself. It is a dichotomy, it is sub-optimal for stability but IMHO that problem may make it more adaptable for modders. I am way too nice and too stupid here, for purely selfish reasons. FO4 to me is great because of what modders have done to it. To me, Bethesda is redeemed in part due to them. I am not the market though.

The aging engine, one way or another will be resolved by the in-mass twitch / console users, the game market itself and economics. The console market will dictate overall sales and that will define the franchise future. I am not sure "that" market is as concerned by replayability. That may be changing? but in large part for that user base, first impressions are lasting ones and a poor game at launch will kill current and the future economic potential. In that market, there are so many great options now and upcoming for $60+ that I don't feel as motivated here to complain. I know they will have to evolve or die.

I am not so sure that Bethesda understood mass-physicology here of games and gamers. hahahaha, for me and my imagination the people in my mind are great and fun to interact with. That is until real ones show up. Then the perspective changes from inside my mind to what is coming out of their mouths and actions. That can be less than entertaining.

As long as modders can access a creation tool, hopefully, an improved one I have hope for Starfield still. I really like what comes from the Minds-of-Modders. It's a good thing.

With fallout 76, I can forgive many shortcomings. Many-many such as stability, crashes, 21.9, the Atomic store, oh a long list. This is a better-looking game. It is a different game. To me, it is one that on the surface looks and feels like fallout. My problem here is isolated to the lack of soul. They seemed to have only slightly improved on the superficial aspects of the game while simultaneously removing what has made them so special like NPC's, Companions, Autonomy, Imagination of the Community and Story. They removed the idealistic characters and gave me real-people, open microphones and a dependency on folks people that frankly are some of the reason why I play games. Like it or not, unconsciously I am trying to escape those very folks for a time so I can recover from all that real-world interaction. If I want to interact with real people - then I just need to go back to real life. A DON"T put Tarter Sauce on my fish-n-chips kind of thing. I can season it myself with a little salt and vinegar.

Frankly, to me, fallout 76 is like walking up to what is apparently a pretty girl only to have her turn around to find out "oh-good-lord" it is not what you expected. Then run to the optometrist.

I think what I am saying here is a metaphor. "It looks like someone whom I may like, but now that I have spent 30hours alone with them. Well, inside I think they are a bit shallow and just not the (person/game) that I want to have any more of a relationship with other than a very casual one. I don't hate them. I just don't feel any magic. Kind of a thing that is good to know up front." Take it to a movie, buy some popcorn. Just don't sleep with it.

Maybe I should like it more but right now, I am struggling. Spending time with it more out of curiosity than pleasure.

 

[uituit]

I had expert hacker at level 5 that's what cornfused me

gimmi your perk cards and I will give you 1 cap I think that's a fair deal don't you?

 

[woodfuzzy]

gimmi your perk cards and I will give you 1 cap I think that's a fair deal don't you?

I have over 2500 caps.. works for me.
I do have a couple duplicates I accidentally ranked up (while learning that weird ass system).
BTW, I play as woodfuzzy too.

 

[uituit]

hehe guess I will have to add u
ugh I hope they fix the friend adding system this patch and maintenance day
people have to add me 1st then I have to add them for it to show up
lol ive missed a few request

 

[Ausplat]

I've learned that you DONT build your camp, on the side of a rocky cliff face, even if it has cool levels and u can get all fancy with stairs and ladders... the fast travel will still spawn you outside your base.

Im ashamed to say, I fell to my death more then once.

 

[Whisper]

Also took to level 30 before I got a lock pick perk!

I do not want to “like” this - ‘cause that sucks and is IMO a game-breaker.

@snarkywriter remember a discussion on Discord?

 

[uituit]

Im ashamed to say, I fell to my death more then once.

hehe or inside a rock ive respawned stuck in my foundation a few times lol

 

[Aurora Moon]

I agree with Raybo. The game does feel like a fallout game... but at the same time it's like going to visit a old friend and finding out that nobody's home.

Even with 24 players on the same server together and enemy monsters the game still feels very strangely empty and abandoned. Especially if all 24 players are spread out on the map and has no intention of interacting with each other.

Let's face it... NPCs are a crucial part of all fallout games. I keep on thinking there must be a way to mod this so that we have a offline verison of this game where we can mod it to have npcs.

 

[Ausplat]

I've not really missed the NPC's all that much really. Im not a huge fan of unskippable/redundant dialogue

 

[Aurora Moon]

I've not really missed the NPC's all that much really. Im not a huge fan of unskippable/redundant dialogue

Really? Even when the lack of npcs makes it too easy to know how every questline ends?
find out what this npc did and what they're up to? oh they're already dead. you're only retracing their steps.

Kinda depressing, really.

 

[Aurora Moon]

Another thing about fallout 76 that doesn't make sense?
I came across this workshop and a really nice bunch of loghouse cabins in a nice spot. I got excited, thinking I'd be able to create something really awesome here. all I had to do was clean up the rubble and stuff, and I'd have a really, really nice place here.
only to find out that I can't scrap any of the rubble or the chairs and sofas. even though I claimed the workshop.

I'm staring at this really nice looking fireplace that I can't clear free of rubble.... and wondering what the heck is the point of workshops in fallout if I can't even clean up anything!

What the heck, Bethesda?

 

[RayBo]

Another thing about fallout 76 that doesn't make sense?
I came across this workshop and a really nice bunch of loghouse cabins in a nice spot. I got excited, thinking I'd be able to create something really awesome here. all I had to do was clean up the rubble and stuff, and I'd have a really, really nice place here.
only to find out that I can't scrap any of the rubble or the chairs and sofas. even though I claimed the workshop.

I'm staring at this really nice looking fireplace that I can't clear free of rubble.... and wondering what the heck is the point of workshops in fallout if I can't even clean up anything!

What the heck, Bethesda?

I am critical, Yep. I am also hypocritical. I am playing the hell out of 76. I have always thought a vanilla playthrough was a good thing. hahaha - yes, everything I do here looks like "trash"..
My 2d workshop! This one is in a junkyard and I "can't scrap anything" :mosking don't get me started about keyboard mapping in workshop mode



But, the view is Great!



huh - the folks next door are a little noisy.... when they bbq. I think their propane tank had a leak?