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Fixed CTD when trying to travel (even walking in) to Jamaica Plains

FastBlackCat

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Someone posted this same issue under Conqueror on Saturday, but since I don't have Conqueror and am having the same issue decided I better post the problem here. I tried to fast travel to fast travel to Jamaica Plains and CTD'd, so five times I fast traveled to Shaw High School and tried to walk over there. Anytime I get within (game wise) of a 1/4 mile (maybe a bit nearer but not much) I CTD to desk top every single time. Also tried walking in from other directions, still CTD.

I have SS version 4.0.8 in and 1.1.4c of the Workshop Framework in.
 

Phil_T_Casual

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How busy is it?
As in, how many settlers/plots?
How large is your loadorder?
Show us your loadorder.
 
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Pretty sure something broke with 4.0.8. I'm seeing CTDs on the regular with new saves, old saves, large load orders, minimal load orders. 4.0.5/6/7 seemed much more stable.
 

FastBlackCat

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How busy is it?
As in, how many settlers/plots?
How large is your loadorder?
Show us your loadorder.

There's currently 10 settlers there, the settlement itself is currently on Tier 3. And my load order is at 251. :blush

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I usually manually build my settlements, the only city plans I've used out of about 12 settlements are Starlight, County Crossing and now Jamaica Plains. (Jamaica Plains is *not* one of my favorite settlements to build on, along with Croup Manor. XD)
 

FastBlackCat

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Update: For an experiment, I just rolled back to SS version 4.0.5 with the corresponding (earlier) versions of Workshop Framework and no CTD, was able to enter the settlement without a problem. A bit of FPS hits, but that's to be expected.
 

FastBlackCat

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After doing some more testing, I currently have SS version 4.0.6a in, with Workshop Framework 1.1.4a and Workshop Plus 1.0.4 and there is no CTD's when I go to Jamaica Plains.
 

BelGarion

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Ok, so, as I posted in my own thread at - https://www.simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/crash-when-i-get-near-jamaica-plains.10057/ - on the advice of this thread I rolled back to 4.0.7A of SS and Conqueror both, kept the WF 1.1.4C since that was the version that I used with 4.0.7A and vola! No problem getting to Jamaica Plains. So all I lost was progress on the new Ms Nanny quest, which it's a fetch quest so I am ok with that. For us two SS 4.0.8 has a massive game breaking bug. :( I'll just wait until either 4.0.8A or 4.0.9 before updating and trying again.But for now it's working with the earlier version.
 

FastBlackCat

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I started to do the suggested method of fixing the issue but haven't finished it yet because I decided I needed a break from F4 a few days ago and went into Skyrim. I'll finish the process sometime today and see if it works.

If you nuke the entire settlement, can you rebuild it again? And does it start at level 1 again? If that's the case, I'm not going to bother. I'll just send the settlers to other places and call it quits at Jamaica Plains. It's one of those places I don't care for (the other being Croup Manor) in the first place, I think they're both cursed. XD
 
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kinggath

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This is almost certainly related to the corrupt building plan that was fixed in 4.0.9.
 
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