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Question No settler migration and heavy framerate drops

Khtugg

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Greetings all,
2 things are worrying me:

1: In my current and in the previous playthrough I have experienced heavy framerate drops or stuttering when I approach a built up Rise of the Commonwealth/Conqueror settlement, for about 3-5 seconds when entering the cell. It used to be a slight hiccup, one stutter and then good.

2: In my current playthrough I can't relocate settlers, companions and relevant NPCs(junkyard dog) to other settlements. Certain vanilla crops can't be pick up in workshop mode and no matter how much I insist I can't assign Marcy Long to other tasks than the (vanilla)crops I set her on in the first place, she moves to points where there are no longer crops and tends to them.

In my search for solutions I happened on a thread in this forum and I think it could be of use -Avast!- I can't use the Fallrim Tools. Using the Java JAR results in an error(heap size) and using the ReSaver results in a savegame that CTD upon load.

Please, could anyone help me out? I will gladly provide more info should you require it

Regards,
Khtugg
 
Greetings all,
2 things are worrying me:

1: In my current and in the previous playthrough I have experienced heavy framerate drops or stuttering when I approach a built up Rise of the Commonwealth/Conqueror settlement, for about 3-5 seconds when entering the cell. It used to be a slight hiccup, one stutter and then good.

2: In my current playthrough I can't relocate settlers, companions and relevant NPCs(junkyard dog) to other settlements. Certain vanilla crops can't be pick up in workshop mode and no matter how much I insist I can't assign Marcy Long to other tasks than the (vanilla)crops I set her on in the first place, she moves to points where there are no longer crops and tends to them.

In my search for solutions I happened on a thread in this forum and I think it could be of use -Avast!- I can't use the Fallrim Tools. Using the Java JAR results in an error(heap size) and using the ReSaver results in a savegame that CTD upon load.

Please, could anyone help me out? I will gladly provide more info should you require it

Regards,
Khtugg

1st issue - vanilla crops - when I get to a settlement, I store all the vanilla crops. I never assign people to them.
2nd issue - the stutter - just the city size loading into the cell. I hate to say it's normal - but depending on ones PC, if you have the ini settings right, etc. This can vary - and - somewhat normal.
3rd issue - the can't move, etc. issue - could be script lag - meaning the system is working through it, but depending on your mods, how many mods, it will just take time... suggest, standing in Home Plate for about 15 to 30 minutes real time and let the game do it's thing.
4th issue - resaver - the only way I have been able to use this successfully, is if I go to Home plate, let a few game days go by... save, reload, a couple more days. save (hard save usage only - not autosaves or quicksaves) … then use resaver. This will allow (hopefully) scripts necessary to run its course, and the loose ones remain - in Home Plate, and with time, you get to a point of dissocation with the game world and the links therein. This is the only time ReSaver has worked well, but honestly, with my 300+ mod order I have finetuned, scripts have not been an issue for me (1 or 2 scripts)

How many loose scripts is ReSaver showing you?
Put in spoiler your load order/plugin list...

Hope this is a start - if not, let us know more information.\
John
 
A possible other thing to consider on the not being able to move individuals. If you are playing conquerer, companions can only be sent to normally controlled settlements (or made into leaders). Occupants of vassals can normally only be sent to other vassals and likewise with outposts.
 
Thanks for replying, guys!

Unfortunately I can't find the loose scripts counter in ReSaver, I see Scripts and Script Instances.
But it's not all bad coz today I learned how to make a spoiler!
Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
ArmorKeywords.esm
HUDFramework.esm
XDI.esm
VotWMaster.esm
SimSettlements.esm
TrueStormsFO4.esm
WorkshopFramework.esm
VIS-G Item Sorting.esp
UltraInteriorLighting.esp
A Sensible Prydwen Overhaul.esp
AA Better Companions - No Conflicts.esp
BarefootFootstepSet.esp
BDO Hair.esp
BobbleGirl.esp
BossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp
UltraExteriorLighting.esp
Boston Natural Surroundings.esp
PlayerComments.esp
PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp
BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
CBBE HeadRear Fix.esp
CBBE.esp
ClassicBehemoth.esp
ConceptCentaur.esp
Conduits and Pylons Various Wireless Power small size options.esp
CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
CustomCamera.esp
DB_NoPowerArmorStrengthCap+10.esp
DCMolerats.esp
DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
Deathclaws to Gatorclaws Revamp.esp
Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp
DifficultyXPScaling.esp
DLCWeaponsinCW.esp
Durable Vehicles - MV x20.esp
Elegant Hardware.esp
EPO.esp
fo3friedghouls.esp
FO4Hotkeys.esp
RadiantBirdsv05.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
FyTy - Audible Footsteps.esp
GhoulMask.esp
Hollywood Bullet Tracers.esp
Immersive HUD.esp
Impactful Nukes.esp
Industrial HD.esp
InstituteMoveFastTravelMarker.esp
ParagonHairs.esp
Scopes.esp
3dscopes.esp
LOST AWKCR VIS-G Tweaks.esp
MK_ComponentsRedone_VIS.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
RaiderOverhaul.esp
SuperMutantRedux.esp
SuperMutantRedux_ArmorSmithExtended.esp
ClassicGhoulRace.esp
CGR - AWKCR Patch.esp
CGR - Nuka World.esp
ImmersiveDrumlinDiner.esp
W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting - Raider Overhaul TAGS - AE.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_Conqueror.esp
SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearTwo.esp
Snappy_HouseK.esp
Fixes and Tweaks.esp
Vertibird Faction Paint Schemes.esp
MilitarizedMinutemen.esp
Mk41GyrojetHMG.esp
Floaters.esp
MA37.esp
Wasteland Water Revival - Clearly Visible.esp
MisriahArmory.esp
Liberator.esp
ChinaLakeandHolorifle.esp
F4NV-AMR.esp
LString_Bow.esp
F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
CreationClubDelay.esp
WattzLaserGun.esp
ExcavatorPA.esp
HAAS Automatron Replacer AE Edition.esp
HAAS Core Replacer AE Edition.esp
HAAS Far Harbor Replacer AE Edition.esp
HAAS Nuka World Replacer AE Edition.esp
HK_MP5.esp
3dscopes-wattz.esp
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp
CraftingFramework.esp
3dscopes-servicerifle.esp
Worsin_Ultimate_NV.esp
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
ClassicBehemoth_SMRedux_Patch.esp
InstitWeapPosit.esp
RS_Sim_AddOn.esp
ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
ProjectBlueprintCOBJs_Sim_Automatron.esp
SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
JP_GuardTowers.esp
KillTips_by_tooun.esp
LockedSafesLegendaryLoot.esp
LooksMenu.esp
MakeshiftBattery.esp
MiscHairstyle.esp
modularmilitarybackpack.esp
NoAffinityCooldown.esp
NoRailRoadBallisticWeaveCPL.esp
NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp
Nuka World Bot Fixes.esp
Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp
personal paintings.esp
PlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.esp
Project Reality Footsteps FO4.esp
Protected Uniques.esp
QuickTrade.esp
True Nights v03.esp
_WarmWeatherTSCompatibility.esp
Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp
REAPER.esp
ReasonableWorkbenchPerks_NoStores.esp
rpampas.esp
RussianAssaultPack.esp
Vertibird Alt Fix - Far Harbor.esp
SkipHSH1_6.esp
SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
Smoke-able Cigars.esp
SurvivalOptions.esp
TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
UncappedSettlementSurplus.esp
UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowersDLC.esp
UniqueMalePlayerAndFollowersDLC.esp
UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowersDLCNoHancock.esp
UniqueMalePlayerAndFollowersDLCNoHancock.esp
UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowers.esp
UniqueMalePlayerAndFollowers.esp
UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowersNoHancock.esp
UniqueMalePlayerAndFollowersNoHancock.esp
UniqueFemaleFollowers.esp
UniqueMaleFollowersDLC.esp
UniqueMaleFollowersDLCNoHancock.esp
UniqueMaleFollowers.esp
UniqueMaleFollowersNoHancock.esp
UniqueMalePlayer.esp
VIS-G We Are The Minutemen.esp
VtawClaire2.esp
VtawWardrobe1.esp
VtawWardrobe2.esp
VtawWardrobe4.esp
WD_BFG_ANIMATIONS.esp
WheelMenu.esp
WVSimSAddon.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
Idiot Slut.esp
MoreRobotVoices.esp
HHFootsteps.esp
Real Roads HD.esp
RegsPrefabs.esp
KSHairdosExtra.esp
VVV_MoreLoadScreen.esp
waterLODfix.esp
Egypt.esp
USP .45_by_tooun.esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp
KrissVector.esp
UniqueFemalePlayer.esp
WATM-MilM.esp
ProjectBlueprint.esp
ProjectBlueprintCOBJs_Sim.esp
ProjectBlueprintCOBJs_Sim_FarHarbor.esp
ProjectBlueprintCOBJs_Sim_Nukaworld.esp
AnimChemRedux.esp
MKIIGrenadeReplacer.esp
SettlementMenuManager.esp
OutfitSwitcher.esp
TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp
TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
WorkshopPlus.esp
NoCameraFilters.esp
Militarized Minutemen - Craftable Outfits.esp
SleekStylesPack.esp
CompanionStatus.esp
VtawUtilityPack1.esp
SimSettlements_IDEKsLogisticsStation.esp
M1A.esp
SatelliteWorldMap.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
PIP-Pad.esp
PIP-Pad_Pip-BoyFlashlight.esp
In the meantime I'll get to Diamond City and try ReSaver there
Thanks again for taking time to help and assist me -polite bow-
Regards,
Khtugg
 
yep, the 133 is a problem.
And @RayBo runs more than I do.

No 1 to 2 unattached . Use pull down to check unattached.

But even at that my active scripts are 10 or less...

It is just a matter of checking your scripts folder in data. Confirm with resave . And deciding what you really want or need.

I go for stability and ctd free. Which I have achieved.

John

John
 
Ten-four. I think I'll start a new playthrough, those unmanagable vanilla crops freak me out. Would you recommend for that playthrough that I make an effort to get access to Homeplate ASAP, so I can prune the game as needed?
 
Ten-four. I think I'll start a new playthrough, those unmanagable vanilla crops freak me out. Would you recommend for that playthrough that I make an effort to get access to Homeplate ASAP, so I can prune the game as needed?

I use cheat terminal so I can just "Move to location" from a list... yeah, if Beth and Fallout4 was perfect - I wouldn't need it for … 'recovering' irrevocable problems.... I play strictly survival only... and save on sleep only - is problematic...

you can open console and type "coc DmndPlayerHouse01"

No need to mess up the quests or hurry your RP'ing… just use it as a "safe space"... I do but I do not activate the workbench etc....

John
 
Ten-four. I think I'll start a new playthrough, those unmanagable vanilla crops freak me out. Would you recommend for that playthrough that I make an effort to get access to Homeplate ASAP, so I can prune the game as needed?

@Khtugg :happy

The stuff we are talking about is just better to avoid. Cleaning unattached instances or removing active scripts is mostly an indication of either poor mod discipline, a glitch that should have been rolled back and replayed, or mod combinations that were maybe not the best / hahaha or even good to start with.
:scratchhead
Things like the below are "good things":
  • getting your load order set before restarting
  • Walking more, fast-tvl less
  • idling in settlements
  • not breaking NPC dialogue exchanges
  • rolling back and replaying when something glitches
  • if new mods are installed test them first in a cloned profile or at least from a recoverable save point
  • Giving your game time to spin up when starting:rollseye
:blush
Starting to learn how to use Fo4edit is the best choice for a tool that can progress your game success and longevity. :umnik2
Folks just seem to miss the point
:yes3 Fallrim is an outstanding diagnostic tool but far :shedevil less effective as the tool you want to use for the cutting :heart in open-heart surgery. :smile "using a spoon kind of thing, it may work if you are really lucky and kind of already know what you are doing and looking for."

:pardon
There isn't a great tool for save file repair. :shok1
There are good tools for diagnostic's. :declare
There are also good tools and "practices" for the prevention of save file damage. :declare
:friendsthat's the deal. :ok
 
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Correction ... I do have a new CTD issue - newer mod though so I guess not unexpected... but for being a hot file mod, I will have to dig into it more...

Yeah, listen to @RayBo … he knows. I am just a piker.

John
 
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