Question My faction lacks resources..

nzane said:

I just did an attack with 5 soldiers, with the 3 bars being +10 each, (so I had 10 for another soldier) to take over a vassal , tenpines bluff, when I came back from the raid my bars were all by the middle, do I have to provide settlers in my vassal with food, ammo and caps as well...?

Edit: It went up by turning on control vassals and assigning a soldier to a guard post, huh, the control bar still won't go up though, even though I manually assigned the soldier

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Hello Nzane for the resources what i do to grow a lot the 3 bars is with control vassals on i created in the vassals more agricultural,industrial and commerical and i have a lot of resources,about the guard posts i am not sure you tryed with a vanilla guard post and not a plot beacuse with vanilla guard posts increases a lot of control for me and more if you assing to it a raider veteran or a raider savage.

Yeah but it still doesnt make sense to me how would I be short on supplies after my first raid to a vassal settlement if I only had my 5 starting troops + 10 for each bar when I started the assault, and I still had only 5 soldiers with me, I don't see why the bars would go down unless I need to feed Vassal Settlers, regardless they went up later, it just took a long ass time , and it doesn't always show up properly, I need to keep bringing up the workshop menu for the values to correctly refresh.

I assigned them but the bar with the fist doesnt refresh correctly either, I don't really mind, what I do mind is im going to get cucked by the hostile takeover faction later because "I don't have guards assigned to the vassal" even though I keep trying to assign them and they just keep slacking off lol

nzane said:

Yeah but it still doesnt make sense to me how would I be short on supplies after my first raid to a vassal settlement if I only had my 5 starting troops + 10 for each bar when I started the assault, and I still had only 5 soldiers with me, I don't see why the bars would go down unless I need to feed Vassal Settlers,

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TLDR: Vassal Settlers (Civilians) require 10 rations each.

Each of your recruits requires 10 rations. Any civilian also requires 10 rations.

Your HQ always produces 50W/50R/50E, enough for five recruits. It does so just by being HQ. So with only five recruits and no plots at all your w/r/e bars should be full.

If your five recruits take a vassal with 10 settlers, you now need 150 rations total to just cover your five recruits and those 10 civilians working/living at the vassal.

If the vassal produces less than 100 rations your ration bar will now not be full. If it produces exactly 100 rations, your bar will still be just full. If it produces more than 100 rations, the ration bar will show you the surplus.

Say the Vassal does produce exactly 100 rations. You now need to provide 100 Control just for the ration production. (If it produces less, you need less control. If more, more control.)

One guard recruit produces 50 Control: so you'd need two guard recruits at the vassal to have full control over the just the ration production.

But if this vassal also produces wages or equipment, you would need extra control equal to exactly how much wages or equipment is produced.

Keep in my mind that two systems work along side each other:

1. The vanilla system: 1 food, 1 water, 1 sheltered bed, 1 defense for each settler (civilian or recruit) This is required for basic settler happiness.
2. The new Conqueror system: 10 rations for each civilian and recruit. This new system involves recruitment, morale and control. Depending on their roles, recruits will also require wages and equipment.

Control needs are based solely on w/r/e production (and the presence, if any, of captives) and are separate from both actual food production and settlement defense.

You must provide rations for both civilians and recruits, but only recruits need wages and equipment.

nzane said:

I need to keep bringing up the workshop menu for the values to correctly refresh.

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These calculations are not instantaneous. Entering workshop mode will usually force them to update.

It's worse with patrols. At HQ, I assign a patrol to vassal and then check the settlement report at the war desk: only part of the control provided by the patrol registers. I then need to go to the vassal, open workshop, and force the calculations (or wait). I can't check the report until I return to HQ. But when I do, the full control from the patrol will have registered.

If a vassal plot upgrades while you are away, you also will probably need to visit the vassal before the report will correctly register/update any changes to w/r/e production and control needs.