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MPilo

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Hi all.
Since my game keeps crashing when I fast travel to some settlements (Sanctuary, Red Rocket Commonwealth, Abernathy, Sunshine) I just downloaded Fallrim tool and run it on the last save I had (autosave in Sunshine just before fast travelling to Sanctuary and had a crash). This is the results
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What does all of this mean? And should I try to get a save in those 10 seconds between the arrival in Sanctuary and the crash to have a save to be analyzed? Everyone's help will be really appreciated!
 
I managed to perform a quicksave before the crash after the fast travel, this is the result
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From what I have read around the forum I think I really need to worry about that 118 under "Active Scripts", but I don't know where they come from and how to try to solve it.
 
I have the same issues since yesterday. But I'm rather unsure it's about my weight and the carried water (over 24'000), or is it something else. Before yesterday the game began to desync the music, if I visited a settlement and used the workstation to clean it up, and had too many items on me. In reason I never had over 19'000 waters before, I thought that could be the reason.

Will have to wait for "Jeff" (a vendor in one of the basements of an addOn of Sim Settlements), in reason he would buy all my overcrowded inventory - then I will know more if that is the solution
 
118 active scripts is definitely no good. Though doubtful it's a cause of crashing. Could you upload your save to a dropbox and link it here? I'll try and take a look tonight to help you with your scripts problem.

CTDs are almost always the result of rendering problems. If none of your settlements are particularly over-saturated with stuff, do you have the hi-res texture pack installed?
 
Thanks for having a look @kinggath , here there is the save (the smallest file is F4SE save): https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ygibe4o1bw9zptr/AACAO06d5cB2eURneOPxVdd3a?dl=0

I do not use Hi Res, my laptop is not able to run it without melting.
I don't really know what happened, everything was working fine before the 2.0.0 update and I managed to refresh every plot in the Commonwealth with the IBB.
The only difference from before is just a weapon mod, Assault carvine and service rifle M4A1/M16A2 by DeadPool2009; I haven't been able to build a single Advanced Industrial Plot, just switch a random basic industrial ti get Industrial City's alternative beacon (and recruitment).

EDIT ADD: the other strange thing is that fast travel works except for those four settlement mentioned in my first post, no matter if I go to other huge SS settlement like Starlight or Nordhagen.
 
The "Red Rocket Truck Stop" seems to be a bad spot to all with the crash, if I remember it right.
 
Update for @kinggath : I just put a .txt fil with my mods in the right load order in the same Dropbox of my savefile; as a second update... I'm not able to play with the save I uploaded in Sanctuary, CTD after maybe 10 seconds (no fast travel before, just loading the game from desktop)
 
@MPilo A save that crashes that quick is perfect- means as soon I solve the issue (if I can), i'll know immediately if it worked. I'll try and get to it tonight.
 
@MPilo Sorry for the delay - I'm on a work trip right now so my available time is all over the place each day. Just checked out your save, the active scripts are just the plots double-checking the modifiers, which is normal after a patch.

It doesn't crash for me, so I think it's just a mod issue. For the first test, can you try loading that save with none of the add-on packs installed and report back if it still crashes?
 
@kinggath I just tried to load the game deactivating all the addons. I fast travelled from the robot dump near Olivia Sat Station to Sanctuary and everything has been fine; then I fast travelled to Abernathy, I've seen all the models of your farms loading (and I also been welcomed by "nothing to fear" of the Securistop, it gave a bad feeling), everything seemed ok... And them BOOM, what I feared: CTD. I don't know why after loading everything, maybe because there were a couple of addon plots in front on me after the fast travel... It seems that I'm not able to fast travel to some settlements without regarding of their dimensions.

EDIT: I loaded just SS and the XPAC, just noticed I forgot to not load Industrial Revolution
 
If the crashes are only happening with fast travel, it seems like there's just too much stuff for the game engine to handle for your computer.

You have a few options here. You could try lowering your graphic settings, though that's obviously not ideal as it will make the rest of your game look less good. You can also try disabling Clutter in the Sim Settlements Performance Options - that should take a pretty big load off of your system but it takes a while to fully kick in as it has to loop through and remove any clutter that was already placed.

You might also read through this discussion and see if any of the suggestions help you: https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/i-hate-to-say-this-but-ctd-happening.800/

You should be able to roll back your save to before you uninstalled the add-ons, I don't think they were your issue. I think it's just overloading your system from all of the stuff in your settlements.
 
It is definitely overloading of the system. I was walking from the robot dump to Sanctuary and when I crossed the river on the backyard (Vault side) I got CTD without even the Windows popup.

About disabling the clutter, do I need to refresh the settlements or can I just start the game, hit the option in the Pip-Boy and wait maybe five minutes to get everything in place?

I was following the discussion you linked, I may try the loading booster but I don't think it's going to work...

Putting together work and gaming this laptop is gonna strike some day... Or melt.

In a couple of weeks I should be able to check if it is just overload, I'll fly back home where I have a PC that runs FO4 at Ultra without any problem.
 
After you disable clutter - it will all update automatically - you can keep playing though. The more plots you have, the longer it will take. Something like 15 seconds per plot.
 
Ok, I did it, I'm able to reach settlements and fast travel to them disabling clutter. I found two problems:

All my industries and shop are rebuilding, in most cases with a different model than before!

And mostly... I don't have the SS menu in the workshop so I cannot build more plots!

I loaded two saves, the one I tried to have with just SS and the XPAC active and also the old one with every addon. I already closed the game and reopened for at least three times but nothing, I still don't have the menu, like SS is not installed (but the plot I had are working regularly so the mod is installed). I updated everything before playing, SS-XPAC-Addons.
 
If the models are changing, usually that means the previous one was detected as ineligible. For example, if you uninstall an addon and then show up at a settlement - it will reset that building to level 1 and give it a new plan. Same thing can happen with the XPAC being uninstalled.
 
I don't think is that, I have not removed any addon... As an example: I lost the ammo plant of Industrial City and it has been exchanged with the Toy Factory (same addon), one of Wastelander Ventures shop for another of the same addon, two buildings have literally swapped their plots... The only buildings that have not been touch are the houses, everything is at their place (both yours and addon houses).

Oh, and all the models that have been changed are available looking at the buildable models in ASAM sensor.

The biggest and worrying part is that I don't have the menu in the workshop, I'm not able to build plots.
 
The only other thing I can think of, is that there's a now a slight delay period before addons are loaded up. If somehow the code to confirm an addon is still there is firing before the addons are loaded, I could see it swapping building models. Though I put a pretty substantial delay on the check to avoid that happening.

Are you on the latest build of Industrial City? I know it had a conflict at one point with the menu.

You've also reminded me I need to find all of the mods that claim to be "patches" for Sim Settlements - most of them need to be updated to work with 2.0 and I don't think they have been, so they're causing random issues for people.
 
Yes, last version of both Sim Settlement and Industrial Revolution, 2.0.1.

I had the menu in 2.0.0, I don't have it now. The only change is that I disabled the clutter but it should not influence the menu. I checked the load order, is the same as when the menu was working.
 
Industrial City, as opposed to Industrial Revolution. It's an addon pack by mytigio - you may not even be using it - but if you are, you'll want to update it.

Do you have Settlement Menu Manager installed?
 
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