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Phil_T_Casual

Phil_T_Casual

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Hi,

So I am about halfway through a play-through and the game has been getting progressively more unstable and has gotten to the point where I cannot go into downtown Boston as I will CTD in a matter of minutes. From the very beginning as soon as I ran the first city plan in Sanctuary the game has been struggling for me. I have lowered/turned off all the settings in SS plus the graphics settings of the game to try and solve this. While it has helped with fps at settlements slightly, I'm still getting lots of CTDs.

I have only built 3 city plans: Sanctuary, Tenpines and Hangmans. Then using SS I have hand built 3 more large(ish) settlements at Zimonja, Starlight and Greygarden.

My question is this; are running both WOTC and SS too much for the game to handle? I know WOTC is very script heavy as is SS so am I just asking too much of the game? I have had a couple of previous play-throughs with WOTC installed on ultra setting with very little performance issues.

The mods I have installed plus load order:
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Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
ArmorKeywords.esm
Z_Architect.esm
Loads.esm
HUDFramework.esm
SimSettlements.esm
WorkshopFramework.esm
GCM_DLC_Automatron.esl
XDI.esm
Z_BlurRemoval.esp
Crafting Mastery - Patch Sim Settlements.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp
P90.esp
P90NPC.esp
MiscHairstyle.esp
WorkshopRearranged.esp
WorkshopPlus.esp
WOTC.esp
UnlockAllHairstyles.esp
EFF.esp
Unbreakable Power Armor Player Only.esp
Thematic and Practical.esp
The Castle.esp
subwayrunnnerdynamiclighting.esp
SunshineEx.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
OutfitSwitcher.esp
OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
More Where That Came From - Classic.esp
move that workbench!.esp
Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp
McMillanCS5.esp
LooksMenu.esp
LMBTOverlays.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
rfortaleza2.esp
rfortaleza2-wetsuit1.esp
SWG.esp
SKKHostileCompanionFramework.esp
rfortaleza2-pauldron.esp
rfortaleza2-mk1.esp
GCM.esp
rfortaleza2-mk6.esp
rfortaleza2-mk5.esp
rfortaleza2-mk4.esp
rfortaleza2-mk3.esp
rfortaleza2-mk2.esp
BTA_ForceOpen.esp
CAMP.esp
CROSS_Cybernetics.esp
CROSS_Cybernetics_NoRobotFootStepSounds.esp
Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp
CombatZoneRestored.esp
ChineseStealthSuit.esp
CBBE.esp
BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp
CSS Ballistic Weave.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
Modern Firearms.esp
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
Z_SettlementLimits.esp
GrayGardenEx.esp
OberlandEx.esp
CountyCrossingEx.esp
Crafting Mastery.esp
Synth Overhaul.esp
Synth Overhaul - White Patch.esp
Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp
Synth Overhaul - Black Patch.esp
ProjectValkyrie.esp
X13_ScrapOTron.esp
CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp
Toxic Raider Armour.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
Rangergearnew.esp
ZimonjaEx.esp
NanoSuit.esp
MTs255.esp
Modern Sidearms.esp
FO4Hotkeys.esp
CROSS_Jetpack.esp
DX_Black_Widow.esp
Eli Armor Compendium AE Patch.esp
AdvSettleTurretSet.esp
AgemoNewFace(E)Piper_VanillaOufit.esp
AgemoNewFace(E)Cait.esp
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp

My rig is not the problem but here are my specs anyway:
CPU: i7 4790k
GPU: Vega 64
RAM: 16GB DDR3
500GB SSD

I have abandoned this play-through and am currently reinstalling the game and would like to give Conqueror a try, but am I just going to be fighting an up-hill battle running it alongside WOTC?

Any help or opinions would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
 
I know people have had problems as a result of moving workbenches, and you have move that workbench. I couldn’t find specifics on a quick search, but it may be worth looking into.
 
Phil_T_Casual said:
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
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Not a good mod, actually a bad one

Guide here by @damanding will explain.
Scrapping Mods and Performance Issues

Another guide to look at is
Increasing The Chances of a Smooth Game Play
It's a work in progress but top tips from some very good people

Fielran said:
I know people have had problems as a result of moving workbenches, and you have move that workbench.
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That is very true and I have tried it in the past as a test :(

What you have to remember is, issues may not arrise right away, but they can fester and build till you CTD. in the smooth play guide above 9if you read it) you will see two examples of game plays, who run smoothly based on certain things we do :)
 
GA_Darkerside said:
Not a good mod, actually a bad one

Guide here by @damanding will explain.
Scrapping Mods and Performance Issues

Another guide to look at is
Increasing The Chances of a Smooth Game Play
It's a work in progress but top tips from some very good people


That is very true and I have tried it in the past as a test :(

What you have to remember is, issues may not arrise right away, but they can fester and build till you CTD. in the smooth play guide above 9if you read it) you will see two examples of game plays, who run smoothly based on certain things we do :)
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Yeah I've read both of those guides which taught me me to clear out my saves, which has sped up my initial load time. Also taught me why my game sometimes shits itself around CIT.

Thanks for the reply.
 
Moving the workbench is definitely a bad idea just for vanilla games and can also break some features of Sim Settlements, particularly for Rise of the Commonwealth which calculates placement in part based on workbench location.

As for War of the Commonwealth, if you're using the really old Nexus version I suggest you stop using that entirely and switch to the new version in active development. It's been completely re-written from the ground up and is being updated regularly. You can join their discord server to get the latest releases or follow their Nexus thread. All the relevant information is in the first sticky note here: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12395/?tab=posts.

However even if you're using the new version you may still struggle to run it with Sim Settlements. They're probably the two most script heavy mods available for Fallout 4.

Edited to add that because it's script based I strongly recommend a new start game without a workbench moving mod (those changes are baked into a savegame), the new Spawn Engine mod, and Sim Settlements. Don't try to update an existing game, there will be too much information baked into that save file.
 
damanding said:
Moving the workbench is definitely a bad idea just for vanilla games and can also break some features of Sim Settlements, particularly for Rise of the Commonwealth which calculates placement in part based on workbench location.

As for War of the Commonwealth, if you're using the really old Nexus version I suggest you stop using that entirely and switch to the new version in active development. It's been completely re-written from the ground up and is being updated regularly. You can join their discord server to get the latest releases or follow their Nexus thread. All the relevant information is in the first sticky note here: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12395/?tab=posts.

However even if you're using the new version you may still struggle to run it with Sim Settlements. They're probably the two most script heavy mods available for Fallout 4.

Edited to add that because it's script based I strongly recommend a new start game without a workbench moving mod (those changes are baked into a savegame), the new Spawn Engine mod, and Sim Settlements. Don't try to update an existing game, there will be too much information baked into that save file.
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That's some great info.

Thanks very much.
 
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