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Eric Sherck

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I thought that residential plots generated taxes. Right now I do not see an advantage to using and actually wasting my sensors for no benefit over a regular vanilla bed. Am I missing something?
 
They do provide taxes. I don't know if the rates have been change, and can't speak for modded residential, but base ones provide .5/1/1.5 over the three levels as far as I know.

I also think the default Sim Settlements requires them. That commercial properties are limited by Residential plots and their level.
 
Eric Sherck said:
I thought that residential plots generated taxes. Right now I do not see an advantage to using and actually wasting my sensors for no benefit over a regular vanilla bed. Am I missing something?
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Wasting Sensors, not really a worry, considering how much i have built and how many I have left.

The no benefit over vanilla beds, well I would say they have a huge amount.
1) The suckers - sorry settlers build it themselves.
2) With addons, there are a vast array of different kinds, I just began to find myself building in certain areas, 4 settlements I think, just so I could try them all out.
3) Some plots just look so, whats the word now, cool? sick? tastic? .........well they look really good.
4) And it would be hard to build them like that yourself without spending hours of flicking through a well thought out menu and placement system.
 
GA_Darkerside said:
Wasting sensors...
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Considering that we pick up 100+ sensors in Concord, our first three-four cities ought to be well-covered. (I personally find myself running out of wood long before running out of initial sensors.)
4) And it would be hard to build them like that yourself without spending hours of flicking through a well thought out menu and placement system.
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I like this re the well-thought-out menu/placement system. ;) Heheheh!
 
Whisper said:
I like this re the well-thought-out menu/placement system. ;) Heheheh!
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Well its such a dream to spend at least 10 minutes flicking through so much then watching Fallout 4 place them in every direction, except the one you want.

Whisper said:
Considering that we pick up 100+ sensors in Concord, our first three-four cities ought to be well-covered. (I personally find myself running out of wood long before running out of initial sensors.)
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To be honest, I have never run out and I think the mayor Bunker, you find more?
Easy to make, or console cheat the materials (shh I didn't say that), just:

Build Build Build and Worry Worry Worry NOT
 
@GA_Darkerside Last night I figured out a very, very fast way of not worrying about much resources or scrolling through the menu so much. It’s kind of embarrassing actually - sometimes I’m just damned slow. :blush
 
Eric Sherck said:
Yes but all my residential plats are collecting 0 taxes. Is that an error do I need to change a setting
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It's been reported as a bug but doesn't happen to everybody, so might be tricky to fix. Unmodded games seem to not experience this, so that makes tracking down the cause more difficult.
 
Whisper said:
@GA_Darkerside Last night I figured out a very, very fast way of not worrying about much resources or scrolling through the menu so much. It’s kind of embarrassing actually - sometimes I’m just damned slow. :blush
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Did I overkill the Tell Me's??
 
VersusXV said:
It's been reported as a bug but doesn't happen to everybody, so might be tricky to fix. Unmodded games seem to not experience this, so that makes tracking down the cause more difficult.
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As @VersusXV has said, but however have you got them set?
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And of course you can change each one as well

Also, sometimes Directly installing SS can help :
PC Help Page _ Basic Guide and Links GA_Darkerside
4) Mod Installation and Removal
4(b) Updating a Manually Installed Mod
4(c) Mod Removal (Dangers)
4(d) How to Remove a Manually Installed Mod

Plus, posting you mods and load order like this would be better

C:\Users\(PC Name)\AppData\Local\Fallout4
# This file is used by the game to keep track of your downloaded content.
# Please do not modify this file.
*Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
*TrueStormsFO4.esm
*Homemaker.esm
*Snap'n Build.esm
*SettlementKeywords.esm
*HUDFramework.esm
*AAF.esm
*ArmorKeywords.esm
*SimSettlements.esm
*Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esl
*SimSettlements_IDEKsLogisticsStation.esl
*SettlementMenuManager.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
*CBBE.esp
*ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp
*dinoshelf.esp
*dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp
*dinoshelf_retex.esp
*Northland Diggers New.esp
*xtns-SA_ChainlinkGateFixed.esp
*PD_LowerWeapon.esp
*FemsheppingsDiamondSquareLoft.esp
*WorkshopRearranged.esp
*Passthrough.esp
*ManufacturingExtended.esp
*g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp
*BetterJunkFences.esp
*RU556.esp
*RU556AWKCR.esp
*dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp
*FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
*FunctionalDisplays.esp
*LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
*AutoDoors.esp
*BalconySupports.esp
*FlirtyCommonwealth.esp
*Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp
*TurretStands.esp
*SnapBeds.esp
*Samutz_VaultSnapWallLights.esp
*ConveyorBarriers.esp
*Curved_Conveyor.esp
*High_Speed_Lifts.esp
*JJConveyorRampUp.esp
*Magnificent Spectacle Island by HZS and JC.esp
*BetterGenerators.esp
*SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp
*OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp
*BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
*VerticalConduits.esp
*ConvenientStores.esp
*Docile Radstags.esp
*AA Better Companions - No Conflicts.esp
*Faster Terminal Displays (100x).esp
*VendorCaps.esp
*Generator Fusebox - More realistic version.esp
*X-Mas_Strands.esp
*CartographersMapMarkers FarHarbor.esp
*SOTS.esp
*CartographersMapMarkers NukaWorld.esp
*FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
*CrimeTown.esp
*CombatZoneRestored.esp
*FlirtyCommonwealthFemale.esp
*EveryonesBestFriend.esp
*TrainBar.esp
*AnotherBrickInTheWall.esp
*CambridgeHome.esp
*Leaders Of The Commonwealth.esp
*PreWar Location Unlocked v2.00.esp
*Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp
*AtomCatGarage.esp
*UFOCrashSite.esp
*ss_addon_pbpp.esp
*SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp
*125_settlement.esp
*CartographersMapMarkers Commonwealth.esp
*ClassicSniper.esp
*TrailerParkDreams.esp
*VaultTecStory.esp
*lexingtonlabs.esp
*SanctFixedBridge.esp
*ohSIM_Sim_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp
*BullpupBozar.esp
*SimHomestead.esp
*AkaWaterWorld.esp
*SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
*WVSimSAddon.esp
*PCDugWedges.esp
*Hamed04 Sim Settlements Foundation AddOn.esp
*CWSS Redux.esp
*SalvageBeacons.esp
*SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp
*Hellfirenew.esp
*PCDugSIMAddon.esp
*DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
*SimSettlements_Addon_VaultLand.esp
*VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp
*UNnaked Power Armor.esp
*GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
*SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp
*ShelteredBeds.esp
*Atomic Lust.esp
*ImmersiveLoversEmbraceRemastered.esp
*LooksMenu.esp
*Rufgt's Animations.esp
*CREAtiveClutter.esp
*Minutemenoverhaul.esp
*Better Vendor Stalls.esp
*Northland Diggers.esp
*SSAOP_SamutzVault88.esp
*Snappy_HouseK.esp
*The Lost Vault.esp
*woodysWastelandStuff.esp
*FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp
*SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
*SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
*IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
*FP_SimSettlements-Leaderpack.esp
*BTInteriors_Project.esp
*BTInt_Optimization.esp
*FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-Junk+DEF_INV.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-NotJunk.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-MiscWeightless.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-Perks.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ModsWeightless.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-AmmoWeightless.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ExplosivesSortTop.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorBySlot.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-CosmeticsByClass.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCAutomatron.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCNukaWorld.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCVaultTec.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCFarHarbor.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCContraptions.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-AidWeightless.esp

using a spoiler so it doesnt crowd the post
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GA_Darkerside said:
Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me

Did I overkill the Tell Me's??
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Alright alright! lol

Begin your build as normal, setting down the basic structure (this is not blinging anything as you go - base structure only).

When you want floor-piece X or wall-piece Y that you’ve already placed down:

* select and move to where you want it
* snap it into position (don’t complete the move)
* clone piece (you do have a shortcut key set up?)
* move piece to snap in next location and repeat

When done, cancel the move and it snaps back to original location.

Saves time and the cloning is free. (In testing I cloned 20 laser-turrets at Sanctuary - only had the resources for 9.)
 
Whisper said:
* clone piece (you do have a shortcut key set up?)
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I don't which of kind of makes me sad considering how many times I played the game and have no clue how to

Guess what :)
Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me
 
GA_Darkerside said:
I don't which of kind of makes me sad considering how many times I played the game and have no clue how to

Guess what :)
Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me Tell Me
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:lol

https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/my-workshop-plus-hotkeys-list.8214/

—edit—
That does it. Last night I tried to make a video of how to do some of this stuff - the audio was completely f’d up. Today I go hunting for a better microphone.

Note that I’m on holiday in 2 days time so the quality is gonna be real bad.
 
Eric Sherck said:
I thought that residential plots generated taxes. Right now I do not see an advantage to using and actually wasting my sensors for no benefit over a regular vanilla bed. Am I missing something?
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When testing this, have you tried leaving the settlement & returning via Fast Travel?

After verifying that Taxes in the holotape is set to ON, can you try Fast Travelling to any destination(as long as it's not very close as the settlement's cell may remain loaded, like if it's Triangle of Death such as Sanctuary & you Fast Travel to either Red Rocket, Abernathy, V111)

I just tested this, leaving & returning has solved it on my heavily modded game! Thanks @Whisper!

GA_Darkerside said:
As @VersusXV has said, but however have you got them set?
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And of course you can change each one as well

Also, sometimes Directly installing SS can help :
PC Help Page _ Basic Guide and Links GA_Darkerside
4) Mod Installation and Removal
4(b) Updating a Manually Installed Mod
4(c) Mod Removal (Dangers)
4(d) How to Remove a Manually Installed Mod

Plus, posting you mods and load order like this would be better

C:\Users\(PC Name)\AppData\Local\Fallout4
# This file is used by the game to keep track of your downloaded content.
# Please do not modify this file.
*Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
*TrueStormsFO4.esm
*Homemaker.esm
*Snap'n Build.esm
*SettlementKeywords.esm
*HUDFramework.esm
*AAF.esm
*ArmorKeywords.esm
*SimSettlements.esm
*Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esl
*SimSettlements_IDEKsLogisticsStation.esl
*SettlementMenuManager.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
*CBBE.esp
*ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp
*dinoshelf.esp
*dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp
*dinoshelf_retex.esp
*Northland Diggers New.esp
*xtns-SA_ChainlinkGateFixed.esp
*PD_LowerWeapon.esp
*FemsheppingsDiamondSquareLoft.esp
*WorkshopRearranged.esp
*Passthrough.esp
*ManufacturingExtended.esp
*g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp
*BetterJunkFences.esp
*RU556.esp
*RU556AWKCR.esp
*dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp
*FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
*FunctionalDisplays.esp
*LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
*AutoDoors.esp
*BalconySupports.esp
*FlirtyCommonwealth.esp
*Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp
*TurretStands.esp
*SnapBeds.esp
*Samutz_VaultSnapWallLights.esp
*ConveyorBarriers.esp
*Curved_Conveyor.esp
*High_Speed_Lifts.esp
*JJConveyorRampUp.esp
*Magnificent Spectacle Island by HZS and JC.esp
*BetterGenerators.esp
*SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp
*OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp
*BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
*VerticalConduits.esp
*ConvenientStores.esp
*Docile Radstags.esp
*AA Better Companions - No Conflicts.esp
*Faster Terminal Displays (100x).esp
*VendorCaps.esp
*Generator Fusebox - More realistic version.esp
*X-Mas_Strands.esp
*CartographersMapMarkers FarHarbor.esp
*SOTS.esp
*CartographersMapMarkers NukaWorld.esp
*FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
*CrimeTown.esp
*CombatZoneRestored.esp
*FlirtyCommonwealthFemale.esp
*EveryonesBestFriend.esp
*TrainBar.esp
*AnotherBrickInTheWall.esp
*CambridgeHome.esp
*Leaders Of The Commonwealth.esp
*PreWar Location Unlocked v2.00.esp
*Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp
*AtomCatGarage.esp
*UFOCrashSite.esp
*ss_addon_pbpp.esp
*SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp
*125_settlement.esp
*CartographersMapMarkers Commonwealth.esp
*ClassicSniper.esp
*TrailerParkDreams.esp
*VaultTecStory.esp
*lexingtonlabs.esp
*SanctFixedBridge.esp
*ohSIM_Sim_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp
*BullpupBozar.esp
*SimHomestead.esp
*AkaWaterWorld.esp
*SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
*WVSimSAddon.esp
*PCDugWedges.esp
*Hamed04 Sim Settlements Foundation AddOn.esp
*CWSS Redux.esp
*SalvageBeacons.esp
*SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp
*Hellfirenew.esp
*PCDugSIMAddon.esp
*DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
*SimSettlements_Addon_VaultLand.esp
*VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp
*UNnaked Power Armor.esp
*GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
*SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp
*ShelteredBeds.esp
*Atomic Lust.esp
*ImmersiveLoversEmbraceRemastered.esp
*LooksMenu.esp
*Rufgt's Animations.esp
*CREAtiveClutter.esp
*Minutemenoverhaul.esp
*Better Vendor Stalls.esp
*Northland Diggers.esp
*SSAOP_SamutzVault88.esp
*Snappy_HouseK.esp
*The Lost Vault.esp
*woodysWastelandStuff.esp
*FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp
*SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
*SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
*IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
*FP_SimSettlements-Leaderpack.esp
*BTInteriors_Project.esp
*BTInt_Optimization.esp
*FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-Junk+DEF_INV.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-NotJunk.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-MiscWeightless.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-Perks.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ModsWeightless.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-AmmoWeightless.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ExplosivesSortTop.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorBySlot.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-CosmeticsByClass.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCAutomatron.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCNukaWorld.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCVaultTec.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCFarHarbor.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCContraptions.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-AidWeightless.esp

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This is a really good point! I suspect now that you mention it, when automated is selected in wizard that taxes might default to Off. Perhaps for New Users selection? Perhaps it might default to OFF for Low Preset, to further reduce Scripting Load which can CTD weak systems & Xbox One?

If true, that would explain the bug reports!

So how often are Taxes supposed to deposited into the workbench? Since all I ever do in game is test stuff I usually console command for 100,000 caps, Cheat Holotape for 200 of every shipment, give every perk & just play in TGM. But I feel like making a note to try this the next time I'm in game. I pick Returning User & Automated & Ultra Settings, so I'll first check if Taxes is on for me(I haven't changed any settings) - Taxes have defaulted to ON for me.
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VersusXV said:
So how often are Taxes supposed to deposited into the workbench? Since all I ever do in game is test stuff I usually console command for 100,000 caps, Cheat Holotape for 200 of every shipment, give every perk & just play in TGM.
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Looks like your soul is mine :)
 
Eric Sherck said:
Taxes are on. Only option is on or off. No where can I set tax levels or adjust what is taxed by how much.
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Have you tried Fast Travelling away & back(assuming at least a couple days have already elapsed with plots having already been built)?

I tried to test this on my game, only thing I noticed was that the workbench didn't get caps till I left & returned. Holotape has "Tax Laws" option to set rates for each type. There is not a frequency option anymore but I am guessing that is intentional in order to manage script load. It seems daily or every other day from what I could see.

I tested in a new location, to ensure there wouldn't be caps already that could throw off any attempt to verify this
 
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