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Game stability with high settler count...

casma164

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More of a poll then bug but does anyone else have CTD issues when their settler count gets high?
I have 266 spread over nearly all the base game settlements(only spectacle island has not been established) and I'm getting CTD's.
GPU temps are in the low 60s and still have plenty of VRAM left. GPU utilization is nearly maxed but that's typical.

I would like to know if its hardware related or SS related.
 
More of a poll then bug but does anyone else have CTD issues when their settler count gets high?
I have 266 spread over nearly all the base game settlements(only spectacle island has not been established) and I'm getting CTD's.
GPU temps are in the low 60s and still have plenty of VRAM left. GPU utilization is nearly maxed but that's typical.

I would like to know if its hardware related or SS related.

All I am commenting on is the poll part of the # of settlers question, sorry. :) 266, does not seem all that high unless you have a high number of settlers in just one settlement.

I posted a thread below that details max settler count in one settlement. It could be relevant to your question? It has a great vid in the thread and comments in the section relevant to sim-settlements.

I don't think the total number from all the settlements is as important as the max count of the settlement in which your character is in. It is how the game loads things up.

In the vid comments, a sim-suggestion is around 40 high-end in any one settlement. I don't like having more than 25-30 as all that activity can sometimes get things acting all-janky. So no CTD directly related to high numbers of settlers in my case.


https://simsettlements.com/site/ind...-increase-maximum-population.5846/#post-43943
 
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I don't believe its as much as the number of settlers as it is the number of scripts running in the background.
If i'm playing and keeping the settlements to a minimum, I never have this problem.
 
It could be either script related or the number of settlers loaded in the settlement you're standing in. How much you've gone over the build limit will impact things as well. Settlements that aren't loaded don't really affect you. If you're in Sanctuary/Red Rocket/Abernathy, then yes those are all close enough that the other settlements will have an impact but generally speaking the rest of the game's settlements are spread far enough apart that other settlements won't even be loaded when you're in one. So settler count for all settlements combined is unimportant, only the count for the settlement you're in really matters. One of the best indicators that you're pushing your system too far is whether the NPC AI is still running. If your settlers are all just standing still, you're pushing too far.
 
I would like to stick my 2 pence worth in and then have my backside kicked out of the room ;)

We all talk about scripts and so on but also what about the engine? As I understand this is just a rework of the Skyrim’s Creation Engine which is a heavily modified version of Gamebryo. I also agree that developing a new engine might of upset the balance too. I do think that in most cases, developers will stick with the devil they know then the one they don't but I also think that is because of profit margins, more time building and developing the engine and the mass of learning, tweaks and bug fixes that inherently come with it, but then again and lets be honest why should they change when Bethesda have you lot :)

Fallout has UFO4P to help solve issues, free of course, then add to the mix, all of you programmers, I hate the term modders (I think of those annoying people in GTA online when I think of modders), to invent things like SS which brought me back to the game again after the last few times and I know has inspired people to actually start now and of course Fallout's dedcated players.

I think Fallout 4 is bugged and not as good as New Vegas, I mean, I have played all of them, over and over and I think PC spec etc may not be the biggest issues with a lot of the games problems, issues with the game have been around as long as Fallout 4 has, 100's upon 100's of google pages.

I have two PC, an old high end and a new high end (I hate throwing things away), yet my old one handles Fallout 4 better, maybe because they feel they have something in common :)

But to me Fallout 4 (Hell any Fallout) is like my old VW camper van, it maybe noisy, Slow, when you turn the steering wheel, 5 seconds later it may turn, the beds are perfect, if your a dwarf (no offence to dwarfs), but if you ever dare suggest I get a more modern one, you will find yourself swimming with the fish, well at the bottom with concrete boots drowning- Joking lol. (hmm but am I?)

But then to me, the crashes, bug and issues are small compared to the immersion and how one day I would like to live in the world of Fallout, Hands Up to nuclear war :)
 
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